Gepard and PGZ09 at 8.3?

say again but slowly please?

pgz09 is good its really good but it doesnt have armour speed and its bigger if anything with something abv a 762 sees you when your running ahead your dead it has okay ammo count shit speed great fcs and electronics but its balenced by being extremly mediocre at dealing with any ground targets on 75% of maps

it weighs next to nothing so it can pull alot more than something with more weight but the same g’s. g’s is the force of gravity its only fastish so when its says 13 g’s its not like your firing an aim9b its more like an irccm magic 1 in deg per second

you can easily outpull a stinger if ur in a fighter aircraft (not a tornado or an su-22 etc)

you can outpull most missles if your side on its an 9.3 ir sam itll hit if you lead before fire 80% of the time

you cant outpull a 20G missile from rear aspect. but you can do it with a 10G missile.
only from my experience though

i have outpulled 9ms (got very lucky) and have had 9ls 5bs and 8bs outpulled in rear aspect before

also try leading your missle where opfor aircraft are going if you are not

kinetically defeating is not outpulling though
and im not considering missiles launched outside the WEZ

ye with stingers i do that. i always hit. but thats my ability. not exactly the missile’s

stingers have alot of pull if used right and can be hard to dodge becuase they are extrodnarly light missles most heli and sams dont weigh alot so they pull way harder than aircraft missles do even if its the same g limit

ye true

its harder depending on the aircrafts flare position too but oh well

Me if I knew absolutely nothing about physics:

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Stinger is 13g which, make it more towards a r530e level pull than a 9b,
which means more pulling Down goes the su22 and su25
and speed bleeding Down goes the mig23m. Yes It bleeds too much speed when defending 4 stingers.
Harrier and late Hunters still standing

I’ve been playing sov 9.3-10.3 these days and I’m now laughing at my own plane’s performance;
Stingers at around 9.x?
It’s the BR of MIG21F13

Wonder if this thing can deal with a second one. No speed to fly away ofc.

Even 23M and SU22 cannot survive
And at this BR, there starts to be OSAs and Strelas XDDD

But these ground players, the opponent team, once let my su22m3 kill 11 ground and 2 heli before spawning A SINGLE AAA
One 8.3 gepard and I would be dead.

Bruh A-G balance

im incredibly stupid also are you yuzu from the FMBOI server??

No, but I PMed you some information, lol

Holdup, are you trying to say weight effects how many Gs an object is subject to?

i thought it was volocity x mass thats what someone was explaining too me i have been spreading ms information how do i almost have a masters

sure u can make that comparison, but the R-530 is 15G. mostly the only thing stinger has going for it is the IRCCM and the burn time on the motor.

fact is if u are outside of a 6km bubble youre safe.
in my experience the igla has been just as dangerous but only if i dont spot it of my plane is a brick.

thats 10.3
osa should be 10.7
gepard with stinger is 9.7
gepard itself is 8.3 which is completely balanced. if youre literally outside of 2km youre safe. just keep an eye on the spawn and check ur RWR. theres no way u die to a normal gepard unless its your own mistake of having a false sense of security

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Meanwhile if I’m doing anything instead of doing nothing with a 8.3-9.3 craft I would be 100% in ~3km range, if not <2km for more accurate dumb bomb drops; or straight flight for bullpup guidance.
Same thing for CAP, which makes ppl even more distracted from the ground. These fighters won’t do anything out of 1km from the enemy aircraft

This is probably why no one’s spawning planes around 8.0-11.0 xD ez turkey shoot

For su22m3, if it finishes the attack at his most manuverable speed for pulling up and leave in a straight line for best speed, it can barely reach 4km when it’s caught up by a stinger launched from behind.