Gepard and PGZ09 at 8.3?

Go on, explain how you’re going to guide the missile if you’re not facing the target. this will be good.

That’s a good one. Even for SPAAGs without proxy rounds or AHEAD you’re almost always going to get beaned flying right at an AA like that.

You dont have or need to dodging the thread is more than enough and quite simple, most of the times you just need to change your directions by a few degrees to avoids the enemy fire.

If you lack the hability, that’s on you buddy, at those ranges you have more than enough time to act, and you can know if they can potencially have either proxy rounds or AHEAD.

Now if you only knew why .

someone seem to forget that cannon spaas lose efficency incredible fast after 3km and arent meaned for those distances

I can’t really say much on this issue, but my experience with the PGZ09 is that of fighting against some sort of MBT. Really, I don’t understand how some players just rush in with their SPAAs and massacre 1/4 of the enemy team. The ZA35 is also extremely frustrating to fight against.

It may just be preference but i still perform very well in the 105

Not really, that might have worked against low BR AA. the gepard for example fires 1100prm at over 1000m/s and provides an automatic lead. that’s, again, not taking into account proximity fused or AHEAD rounds.

Now you’re just lying. try reading what you wrote. you’re saying that you can accurately guide an MCLOS missile in and dodge streams of rounds that will have a closing speed of probably around 1200 m/s. pure bullshit.

“someone seem [sic] to forget” that the target is coming straight at them. and that we were talking about only SPAAGs without any proximity or programable rounds. against a target like that the gepard has an effective range of 5.5km.

It’s a good plane, there isn’t always going to be anti air and the vast majority of WT players are at least borderline mentally retarded. But if you have a PGZ09 waiting for you you’re going to be dead fast.

Again at those ranges you have plenty of times to see the rounds… it is still way more that 3 s when you are a 3 km… btw 3 km is practicallly over the effective range of most spaag at this br and like i said before you can know when you face ahead or proximity fuze rounds, only two nations have those at this br.

Well because you can… even with the “high” closure rate, you still have plenty of times to act, you are not firing the missiles at point blanck you can fire them well over the range of these spaag, and you also dont need to be exteemely accurate when you go agaisnt spaag, as you can kill them with splash damage.

You should probably practice a bit with these buddy, because it seems that you have not use them at all.

13gs when your a tiny low weight but fast missle is close to a magic one in pull g’s are not the amount something can pull thats deg per sec but how hard it can pull by volicty and mass

say again but slowly please?

pgz09 is good its really good but it doesnt have armour speed and its bigger if anything with something abv a 762 sees you when your running ahead your dead it has okay ammo count shit speed great fcs and electronics but its balenced by being extremly mediocre at dealing with any ground targets on 75% of maps

it weighs next to nothing so it can pull alot more than something with more weight but the same g’s. g’s is the force of gravity its only fastish so when its says 13 g’s its not like your firing an aim9b its more like an irccm magic 1 in deg per second

you can easily outpull a stinger if ur in a fighter aircraft (not a tornado or an su-22 etc)

you can outpull most missles if your side on its an 9.3 ir sam itll hit if you lead before fire 80% of the time

you cant outpull a 20G missile from rear aspect. but you can do it with a 10G missile.
only from my experience though

i have outpulled 9ms (got very lucky) and have had 9ls 5bs and 8bs outpulled in rear aspect before

also try leading your missle where opfor aircraft are going if you are not

kinetically defeating is not outpulling though
and im not considering missiles launched outside the WEZ

ye with stingers i do that. i always hit. but thats my ability. not exactly the missile’s