Gepard and PGZ09 at 8.3?

Like all other enjoyers of CAS he will never admit that Germany/Japan and Italy have zero effective SPAA’s from around 6.0 to about 9.7.

German’s are held back by their WWII SPAA’s that gaijin nerfed artificially to boost their premium plane sales. Whilst Kugel and 341 on german side are super effective against wheelie boys they are next to useless in their main role as spaa due to slow tracking,nerfed ammo and speed. 341 is only spaa you can put in german 7.7 lineup where it faces planes that it simply cannot track unless enemy has lobotomy and flies straight at you.
Gepard is still only SPAA that if hit in turret(even with shrapnel ) will sometimes lose all of its ammo, it effectiveness is reduced by its self destructing ammo (4000 or so meters) and artificial fall of which depending on ammo starts around 1500 m.
With Gaijin constantly stuffing mid tiers with more and more planes that don’t belong there things will just get worse .
Didn’t even need to mention crap radar on gepard.

thats not true.
The Gepard at 8.3 and it equivalents are good at their br. They just arent braindead easy as that guy claims and the gepard had one of the better radars of its peers.
Generaly if you wanna do anti air duty with gepard you have to move forward but not where enemy tanks are to get shot by them. You are an spaa not a mbt, a tank will kill you thats normal

I have just under 2000 battles in Gepard ,in 90 % of them i have been killed by Helicopter/aircraft missile that was fired from ranges where i cannot engage target
It used to be good,now is crap
It simply cannot compare to other SPAA’s on its BR
They should remove DM23 from it and drop it down to 7.7 next to ZSU23-2 at this point
Lets leave it at that

not much of a reason for it to be lower than the zsu 23 4, and even then it isnt like you remove much AT capabilities by removing the dm23, the dm13 are by themselves ridiculously OP.

You should try it again now that it has 2 2500kg bombs, honestly a fun little nuke thrower at 6.0

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Now if only they would give it its real explosive.
But apaprantly the explosive mass is a balancing point from gajin

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no, gepard is good at 8.3 pgzo9 needs to be 9,0

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I hate its handling now
Wobbles all over the place
Stopped using bombers when they nerfed explosive
dropping 1000 kg bomb next to IS 2 and scoring hit is not fun
Especially since my maus dies when russian 50 kg bomb drops 5 meters away from it

Have you even used an AGM-12? It’s sounds like you haven’t. you can guide your aircraft or the missile… using the arrow keys. it’s generally worse than rockets with a ballistic computer.

Once you start moving your aircraft again, you can’t guide them. you’re completely wrong.

the A32A is totally better at cas. it gets better bombs for multikills, has a ballistic computer and gets countermeasures and better guns. but it’s also at 9.0.

That was easy, so you don’t know what you’re talking about at all.

Yes i have thats why im telling you that you can control them while you move with the mause, btw the only way to loose the guidance is when you literally launch a new one, seems like the one that has never use them is you buddy…
Btw even if you couldn’t move while controlling them, which is not the case, you still outrange the spaag.

Also since you probably will keep bringing this I will actually show you prove that you can guide them while moving and that you dont drop the lock when you move.


I’m glad that you (with zero battles in Ju288, 18 in Gepard ) know everything

Drop your Discord here so we can ask for your advice in the future

A32 gets chaff only, it also gets 3x 800kg bombs or i could have 4x 1000lb with a computer and 2 missiles or the 4x bombs with 2x 500lb bombs. The 105 is a better CAS platform.

Brooooooo

Are you trolling? you’re flying right at them the whole time, and they’re not moving or even firing back. thanks for proving my point.

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Is it better to ask you? maybe we can find out about playing only germany.

Chaff, that breaks radar locks. 800Kg is much larger than 1000lb. they both have ballistic computers. the A32 is faster and it’s guns are better and have far more ammo. That’s not to mention that taking the loadouts you’re citing both make the 105 fly like a brick and don’t let you take guns. Aim-9b are also basically useless in ground.

your “points”

Seems like youre wrong in all of your point are false, so, good luck at deflecting…
Btw even if they where firing back those movements are more than enough to doge all of the shots at those ranges.

Go on, explain how you’re going to guide the missile if you’re not facing the target. this will be good.

That’s a good one. Even for SPAAGs without proxy rounds or AHEAD you’re almost always going to get beaned flying right at an AA like that.