General unbalance of some vehicle

[NoylDestroyer_St]

Recently in a another post someone mentioned the Petard,a tank that i completely forgot i had…
Tried to do a game in it since why not and went horribly
Then i went to play another derp vehicle called Su-122…now…
Why are those 2 vehicles the same br bracket?
The Petard its worse in everything besides maybe armor but thats a maybe
The Petard IMO shouldnt be 2.7 and the Su-122 has to be 3.0 at least cause this tank to this day,even after they moved it up its still broken

Its fast,kills anything with the HE,it has ok armor since its a slight angle and you can angle a bit to make it harder for those who can pen you,giving you time to reload and obliterate them from existance

All things that the Petard doesnt have,it should go lower or make the gun impossible to take out cause that tank…its already pathetic but at that br bracket its even more pathetic than it already is

[markimash]

Petard is only really played in city maps where it does well.

The only real issue with it dropping lower is its armor which is already really good at its br.

I will say that outside of knife fights it should just never be played.

@NoylDestroyer_St

make the gun impossible to take out

Cant really do that unless you make it the case for all vehicles.

[Circleati]

the petard shouldnt go down, its armour is too good regardless of shooting the round in the gun, its rare and at 2.7 or lower there a very good chance a player you come across will not know its weakpoint

2.7 kinda seems to be the catchall for low BR ‘heavy’ tanks that actually have armour m4a3 105, b1 ter matilda etc

[NoylDestroyer_St]

@markimash

Petard is only really played in city maps where it does well.

Played a city map and guess…got obliterrated every single time by the same thing i used after called Su-122

Both of vehicle shouldnt be at 2.7 together
Su122 overperforms a lot for that br bracket

You get uptiered?No problem,you can still kill anything
You get downtiered?30 bombs game

[NoylDestroyer_St]

@markimash

Cant really do that unless you make it the case for all vehicles.

You can actually do it tho…make it 999mm armor and its impossible to break and youre set

@markimash

I will say that outside of knife fights it should just never be played.

Which btw never happends

[markimash]

@NoylDestroyer_St

Su122 overperforms a lot for that br bracket

yeah, it could go to 3.0 with no issues.

@NoylDestroyer_St

make it 999mm armor

If you have some documents that it is 999mm thick armor, sure.

@NoylDestroyer_St

Which btw never happends

city maps are knife fights

[Circleati]

@NoylDestroyer_St

Which btw never happends

at 2.7? in my experience it happens a decent amount, more than at higher BRs, just never when ive played the petard lmao

[NoylDestroyer_St]

@markimash

If you have some documents that it is 999mm thick armor, sure.

Lets not start on that argument…

@Circleati

at 2.7? in my experience it happens a decent amount, more than at higher BRs, just never when ive played the petard lmao

Barely have more armor than the Matilda on a flat surface too btw which can be penned quite easly by the same br tanks and above

Petard should get a slight buff,i dont care how unrealistic it is,they do it for other nations cough cough cough
Why not a pathetic vehicle to make less pathetic?

[markimash]

@NoylDestroyer_St

Lets not start on that argument…

sorry, i would like to try to not make fake changes.

[Circleati]

@NoylDestroyer_St

they do it for other nations cough cough cough

name one

@NoylDestroyer_St

Petard should get a slight buff,i dont care how unrealistic it is

you may not care but a lot of people do

@NoylDestroyer_St

Barely have more armor than the Matilda on a flat surface too btw which can be penned quite easly by the same br tanks and above

and the matilda is a very heavily armoured tank for its BR, the only thing holding the matilda back is speed and gun

@NoylDestroyer_St

Lets not start on that argument…

didnt you start it?

[NoylDestroyer_St]

@Circleati

you may not care but a lot of people do

Mhh…so thats why people always complain about Russia 🗿​

@Circleati

didnt you start it?

Tell me why the Petard shouldnt be changed,its a tank you cant even use like what are we talking about

[Circleati]

@NoylDestroyer_St

its a tank you cant even use like what are we talking about

how can you not use it? im pretty sure you can still spawn it in, and regardless of how well it performs, ive had fun in it so have my friends so for an event tank, in a video game, has it not served its purpose?

big fan of the part where you ignored everything else i said

[NoylDestroyer_St]

@Circleati

how can you not use it? im pretty sure you can still spawn it in, and regardless of how well it performs, ive had fun in it so have my friends so for an event tank, in a video game, has it not served its purpose?

No,a heavy bunker buster tank that cant be used…while the other nation counter parts do WAY MORE

Lets not forget that Gaijin will do unrealistic stuff if its for balance reason,its a game not a 1:1 simulator

[markimash]

@NoylDestroyer_St

Tell me why the Petard shouldnt be changed,its a tank you cant even use like what are we talking about

ngl, it will never be meta. its just like the sturmtiger. A siege vehicle that is being thrown against tanks is not going to do well.

@NoylDestroyer_St

while the other nation counter parts do WAY MORE

Not their fault the british didnt give it a higher velocity weapon.

[Circleati]

@NoylDestroyer_St

Lets not forget that Gaijin will do unrealistic stuff if its for balance reason

only for rather specific things, and often only when specific information isnt available, like with reloads and sometimes armour at top tier

@NoylDestroyer_St

No,a heavy bunker buster tank that cant be used…while the other nation counter parts do WAY MORE

its specifically an event vehicle, while the su122 and its other counterparts are almost all tech tree vehicles, new players dont have to suffer through grinding with the petard because they wont have it unless they go out of their way to get it, so there is little reason its needs to be artificially balanced like you advocate for and even less reason for it to go down in BR

[NoylDestroyer_St]

@Circleati

big fan of the part where you ignored everything else i said

The Matilda at least can shoot other tanks
Its slow…so does the Petard…not only that but the Petard its a sitting duck in 99% of the maps
You get a city map?Good!Heres a Pz4H which would go through you
You dont get uptiered?Amen,there are way many tanks that go through you as butter

[NoylDestroyer_St]

@markimash

Not their fault the british didnt give it a higher velocity weapon.

Its not a sim,they can increase the velocity of it to make it able to shoot further than 40 centimeters you know?

[markimash]

No. I refuse to ever support stuff like that.

[Circleati]

@NoylDestroyer_St

The Matilda at least can shoot other tanks

i mean, the petard can shoot things just only within 150m its not like it doesnt have a gun at all

@NoylDestroyer_St

Pz4H

okay? its 1.0br higher what do you expect? but also if youre angling correctly and not looking at them they still struggle

[NoylDestroyer_St]

@markimash

ngl, it will never be meta. its just like the sturmtiger. A siege vehicle that is being thrown against tanks is not going to do well.

NoylDestroyer_St:

The Sturm can shoot quite far,have good armor frontally but can be killed by shooting the inside the gun…its very usable and funny compared to a Petard