One can be seen in the forum suggestion:
I also found about 3-4 other photos of Japanese M20s, and a couple of the M8 (albeit the M8 did not have the .50 cal in these photos).
Oh. I was dumb and didn’t make out the machine gun the first time I looked at that. :v
Yeah besides the compression of the image it doesn’t help that Japan used the short .50 mount it seems.
I also saw some models of JGSDF M8s that show the same thing, although I’m not sure if they’re based on real photos or not.
Firefly, Sherman 76, T-34-85 and many other contemporary vehicles have the same 0.027 dispersion. Meanwhile Japanese Type 5 75mm Tank Gun still has 0.07, which is also what most 1.0 BR 37mm and 45mm guns have. Obviously those guns didn’t have the same exact dispersion in real life. At any rate the historical value for the Japanese gun is 0.015 - 0.03 & 0.038 depending if HE round dispersion is included.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/1wWioLD2SQst
In reload speed the same gun also lacks bit behind Panzer IV and Sherman 76, despite having turret ammo racks: 6.5s vs 5.9s.
In game reload rate fine tuning is considered as a balance thing, so does someone consider Chi-Nu II or Chi-Tos to be overperforming on their BR?
qaz already made a report about it with historical source. 10 rounds per minute would indeed be closer to 5.9s. This is in specific about the TANK mounted gun.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/AtLWLmyZXWRj
On open top tank destroyers mounts the Japanese gun lacks even further behind. Marder III and M10 GMC were both buffed to 5s reload, while the Na-To with far more space has 5.9s.
Japan imported multiple LVT A5s and did use them for actual service for a short time, but the examples they received were in really poor condition, so they were retired after a very short service time.
Are there ANY MBTs Japan could get at 9.7? From any Asian nation. I feel like 9.7 could be a very good BR if Japan got an MBT there
M60A3 TIFCS from Thailand… yeah that’s all I can think of. The Filipino Sabrah LT maybe, but thats not a MBT.
9.7 ? uuh, only M60A3 TIFCS comes to my mind atm. Majority of other MBTs are either top tier or nowhere near 9.7.
DO we have ANY ideas for what japan could get from these sub-tree nations that could fill the 10 to 11 gap?
Indonesian Leo 2A4 comes to mind.
Quite a lot actually
Not particularly. There’s some light vehicles that could go in that gap, but there will always be a gap in mainline MBTs at that range.
Would the type 4 ha to work in wt?
There was a blueprint photo showing it can depress to the roof not sure if it’s still 50+ degrees. I tried to use a ballistic calculator to see the drop range of the shell and lowest depression, came out to 7 meters I probably missed up somewhere.
Not really, there is an obvious lack of onboard ammo storage. Not to mention, the gun was muzzle loaded, and so it needed to be positioned at a vertical angle as seen in your image, whereas a small crane would hoist the shell into the barrel.
So even though it looks pretty cool, it’s ultimately just a fancy carrier for a heavy mortar. In this photo, you can even see how the length of the “barrel” is an illusion, as there is pretty much just a bunch of metal superstructure to help guide the shell in while loading.
As a side note, when I was younger and less knowledgeable, the RTS game Men Of War: Assault Squad 2 had me under belief that the Ha-To fired rocket-assisted shells, something that it unfortunately did not have in reality.

I’m working on this camo right now. I still need to finish the small details. The hard part is that I’m doing it on a 2D camo template in GIMP, and I have to figure out where the tiny parts are located on the template that I have to paint. (small optics, tank hatch, smoke grenades etc.)
Looks sick, kinda hope it’s the market skin for the Stingray!
Braver than me, I hate texturing
The Stingray has a lot of flat surfaces and large textures, which makes it easier to paint than many tanks. Now imagine doing this on a Soviet tank with tons of separate textures and ERA blocks—that’s a nightmare to paint on a 2D template like this. I already gave up doing any Oplot camo.
Wasn’t Chi Ha LG’s ammo crate just strapped on the back by devs, even though it was not there irl (afaik)?
Devs are magicians that invent quite a lot of stuff that shouldn’t be there (prime example: armament on aircraft), and I don’t think it will be a big of a deal to put 4-5 rounds (+1 in chamber) just to have at least something. Thanks to ammo crate, it ain’t as much of a problem as it would be before.
Spicy screenshots
Sorry for your loss. Trying to use GIMP was painful.