Althought it haven’t come true yet, but I already foresee Japan become the 4th strongest/biggest TT in the game. If the ASEAN founders countries really added to Japan we might just get all of the OP vehicle in the game right now. For example we will get Thai: VT-4 & T-84, Gripen; Indo: Leo 2RI, AH-64E, Harimau, Rafale; SG: Leo 2SG, F-15SG, F-35; MY: pt-91m, F/A-18, Su-30mkm; and we even haven’t discuss if S.Korea will be added to Japan TT or not. Adding the original Japan vehicle I would say playing Japan TT already play half of the game in the future😅😅
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Doing an amazing work man. I was hoping it was a new tank that could be added but its better be sure than making a fake tank.
Out of curiosity was there any Manchuria moded chi ha like how they moded the ha-go?
Its a shame a lot of Mai’s info was just false not sure how it got this bad.
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So in terms of mystery tanks that is left for japan its the type 95 heavy with the weird turret
the Ka-so looking tank the Type 92 heavy armored car with a 25mm gun? (I think its just us hallucinating it) and lastly this tk? (Stuff I posted on Mysterious and Unique Japanese Vehicles)
Lastly found something interesting, the Type 99 was supposed to be named Type 75 SPH Kai I do wonder if the name was still used for the first prototype and 2nd was later named the Type 99.
https://www.forecastinternational.com/archive/disp_pdf.cfm?DACH_RECNO=996
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Wow, great work! I was pretty certain that these were Chi-Ha, but I wasn’t sure exactly why the image was so altered; I assumed that it was for censorship or maybe aesthetic purposes. Now we can be sure exactly how this image originated.
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It probably didn’t exist. The Chi-Ha did not undergo significant suspension changes after the prototype stage. Also, if I recall correctly, the evaluation of the Manchuria Ha-Go wasn’t very positive to begin with, so there wouldn’t have been a rational reason to apply the same thing to the Chi-Ha.
As far as I know, most of the vehicles in Mysterious and Unique Japanese Vehicles have already been explained in works by Japanese researchers. (Sorry—I haven’t looked into them in enough detail to explain everything myself, but if I come across relevant materials, I’ll be sure to let you know.) This vehicle, however, really is a mystery. The Ku-Se seems the most likely candidate, but there’s no clear evidence to confirm it.
As for the photo itself, its background is already known: it was taken near the Sagami Arsenal on October 16, 1945, and is currently preserved in the NARA II RG-111SC group with the unique ID number SC 214787. I don’t personally have access, but if someone can get into NARA, looking around this area might not be a bad idea—though the chances are probably slim.
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Wasn’t the Type 92 with the 25 mm a myth? I thought it was debated in the old forum and the consensus was that the 25 mm wouldn’t have been able to fit within the tank without some drastic modification to either move the gun mount forward or reposition the hull gunner, of which there’s no evidence for.
I distinctly remember @aizenns overlaying a silhouette of the 25 mm over the silhouette of the Type 92, but that image is gone with the old forum.
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Gawd I wish more tanks got the fabric thermal sleeves
The always look so good.
What other skins where you thinking of doing?
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Changing to a gun with a calibre almost twice as large is going to require extensive modification. It will need a purpose-built mount, and will require much more space both for the gun itself and its operation. If this is even physically possible, it’s quite unlikely.
I don’t remember the old forum discussion about it but yeah I’m not aware of any modified Type 92 other than the special float one.
And forgot to add this to the list of stuff you can add (unless it’s there and over looked it)
Late model Type 92 - new suspension with four road wheels and two return rollers
Not 100% sure what’s the difference between early and mid one
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I’m just asking out of curiosity, but where was this captured from? Since production of the Type 92 armored car officially ended in 1936, I don’t think it makes sense to call it something like model 1939 or 1942. It might be referring to a different vehicle, but I’m not sure what. Isn’t there any attached explanation or description?
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It’s from one of the hypothetical tech trees on the old forum, from before Japan even had a ground tree. It’s also pretty bad when it comes to being accurate.
That part is pretty much just copied from the English Wikipedia page for it, which details the tank having “early,” “mid,” and “late” production variants. I haven’t been able to find any sources collaborating the replacement of the Type 91 machine guns with Type 97, though, or any of the other details given in that section, which is what the 1942 variant supposedly is. The only part that is for-sure accurate is that their were early and late models, differing in their suspension and in minor details like their viewports, and that earlier production versions often lacked the intended 13 mm machine gun and just used a Type 91, instead.
Early-Production Model Suspension
Three pairs of two road wheels and three bogies per side. Strobe light atop turret. No viewports in turret. Type 91 hull machine gun instead of 13 mm machine gun.
Late-Production Model
Suspension simplified to two pairs of two road wheels, larger compared to early-production, and only two bogies instead of three. Strobe light dropped. Turret viewports installed. 13 mm hull machine gun.
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I see. I just checked the English Wikipedia, and it seems they mistook the 6.5 mm version for the early-production model and the 13 mm version for the mid-production model.
I can’t say for sure, but I think it’s probably false. Even in the blueprint drawn in February 1939, after production had already ended, the machine gun is still shown as the Type 91.
Just to add, in the late model not only the suspension but also the tracks were replaced.
EDIT: Oh, and you probably already know this, but there’s also a version of the early-production model that had a 13 mm machine gun installed. I mention this because it seems that version isn’t included in the tree you made.
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Honestly like wiggly said the old ones has tons of fakes or misunderstandings but that’s what I’m trying to uncover the misunderstandings for example the Chi ha Kai applique was ment to be the track armor one or the Stuart armor one. While the Chi ha Kai II was the one with the extra 25mm turret armor. (I might be wrong but either way. The stuff I found was the overlooked/forgotten stuff that was discussed on the old forums)
this:
From my understanding (probably like you guys said the refits was a misunderstanding unless there is actual sources to back it up).The old websites combined say a total of 7 or 8 varieties was made.
The early version that had mg’s then rearmed
The early version that came with the 13.2mm
Late one. I’m trying to figure out if this was a badly drawn art or there was this design of these road wheels
Might be this one I’m trying to find better photos.
Late one with different road wheels.
And lastly a 20mm one and a 37mm one (honestly I don’t see how a 20mm can be fitted maybe one of the shorter barreled 37mm? But it needs to heavily modify the port for it). Also I believe I found the misunderstanding of the 1942 model.
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War Drawings and the numerous popular AFV and Tank Encyclopedias, while they can be good for some obscure vehicles, is generally trash for the same reason Wikipedia is. Or because they just straight up quote Wikipedia. The 20 mm and the 37 mm is too large for the tank to carry, at most it was just a proposal in the same way that the Tiger 10,5 cm was. And, in the same way, suggesting that an unmodified Type 92 could’ve carried either of them is just as egregious as an unmodified Tiger II turret carrying a 10,5 cm.
There is definitely only one “late” one there, though. War Drawings just didn’t get the wheels perfectly right. That photograph is also too grainy to draw any solid conclusion from, but with the lack of any other photos I don’t think it would be any different from the normal soft-edged road wheels like in more clear photographs of the vehicle.
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Tbh I would say this about almost any non-Japanese material in net. One of the best thing to research Japanese vehicle is reading Japanese wiki which has much lower number of mistakes
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Skyguard 3 system
Did the JGSDF M8 Greyhounds ever use the anti-aircraft cal. .50? I’ve seen it mentioned, but in every actual photo of a JGSDF Greyhound I’ve always seem them without the cal. .50.
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I’m trying to find the photo of it I swear I saw it before.
Would the M20 and M39 make a good 1.0 spaa or its bit modern for it?
M20
M39
Did they used a LVT(A)-5?
Also found this
Komatsu SU-I
Mitsubishi SU-II
The M59 (right) next by the Komatsu SV prototype 81mm self-propelled mortar (center) and the Mitsubishi SX prototype 107mm self-propelled mortar (left).
idk if these would work in game
M4 M5 M8
