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It depends on what I am searching for.

Yes, the good’ol classic spamming images with nonesensical talk.
It doesn’t matter the fact you used false sources regarding your posts in the past and to this day.

Still doesn’t change the fact you tried to convince people that Japan was working on the 135mm cannon for their Type-90 tanks.

This image real? Really hoping is

Of course not

Still got this thing to figure out. It’s making my head hurt.

They were, at least initially. The cannon for the STC tank that became the Type 90 was supposed to be either a 120mm or 135mm domestic cannon from either JSW or Daikin. I don’t think the cannon was ever fitted to the prototypes, and it was eventually decided to use the more common 120mm caliber and imported Rheinmetall L/44 cannons in the Type 90 (only the initially two prototypes used JSW 120mm). The domestic 120mm was eventually developed into the Type 10s cannon, the 135mm was likely just discarded completely.

There’s not a lot of information on the 135mm cannon besides that it supposedly achieved a muzzle velocity of 2000m/s. There’s no images or even plans for it that I could find anywhere.
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But it’s still not misinformation, just a very obscure project that didn’t get very far.

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Wasn’t there a Type 74 spotted one time with ERA?

Are you referring to the type 74 sabra opfor kit?

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This is what I know so far about it,

Masanori Kanagi who was the general manager of the defense R&D division at Daikin. Daikin makes all of the Japanese ammo and did some work on some cannons. Like everyone else building 140mm cannons, they saw that Russia was looking at upping the caliber of their tanks to 135/152mm. They started working on a 135mm gun in anticipation for the new tank that was under development. They managed to test it, but the initial specs for the Type 90 came out and it called for a 120mm. ATLA didn’t want to be using a gun with different ammo than what America was using, so Daikin ended up downsizing the 135mm gun into the 120mm gun that ended up on the first 2 prototypes.

JSW and DAIKIN ind also independently developed a 135mm cannon (which never got to be mounted) outside of the contract as a possible upgrade which was able to achieve a 2000m/s muzzle velocity revealed by one of the lead designers at DAIKIN (not much else is known past the velocity), but with budget restrictions both the JSW 120 and 135mm cannons were shelved in favor of the cheaper Rh120 despite the advantages of the domestic gun.

As mentioned earlier, the gun used by the TKX-0002 (and the TKX-0001) was a prototype 120mm L/44 gun made by Japan Steel Works. The history of this gun started with the development of the Type 90 back in the late 70’s. Surprisingly, it was initially developed as a 135mm gun by Daikin Industries, not a 120mm. This was rather ambitious, seeing as Japan at that point only had a little experience developing tank guns since the end of WWII. This 135mm gun was noted to have sabot shells that were able to reach speeds in excess of 2000 m/s, according to one of the developers of the gun. At some point afterwards, the 135mm gun was cancelled for unspecified reasons, though it was likely due to cost and the impracticability of developing an autoloader for 135mm shells. Nevertheless, the research on the 135mm gun was used for the development on the 120mm Japan Steel Works gun, with the 135mm specifically being noted as having been “miniaturized”. While there were apparently many problems during the development of the 120mm, the end result had high accuracy and armor-penetrating capabilities.

Like it´s mentioned before, information about this is very scarce.

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I do hope they add the IRST F-15 at some point…

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Might be, I’m not too sure.

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No, there wasn’t Type 74 with ERA so maybe you saw opfor kits what was showed earlier

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I wonder if Japan lied about not being able to use ASM-1, or if it was a certain variant that could.
i don’t think the t-2 was up for purchase so i think Japan might hide some capabilities but that’s just a theory.

wasn’t the aps supposed to be domestic, or did Japan give up on that too:/

my dream would be to have a type 10 equipped with iron fist haha

i much prefer the Shtora-1 elijah 2

Still waiting to see M15 for Japan, yeah yeah I know copy paste and stuff but at least it will be bare minimum different because if I remember correctly the JGSDF M15 didn’t had the front shield basically leaving the gunners exposed
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Similarly, Tan-SAM Kai is not an official designation either.

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There is a demand for National Security Force / early SDF vehicles imo.

Personally would like to run a lineup consisting of those for certain time periods.

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