General Japanese & Thai Ground Forces Discussion HQ

Just thinking for the future; the F-2 should suffice until then.

Not really we could see it when the Gripen E drops considering gaijin loves to copy and paste. Think its pretty likely gaijin won’t make the Gripen E exclusive to sweden so whenever that jet arrives we can see the Thai model drop

I have a question,who will F2 be placed under? F15JM?F16AJ?F16OCU?

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foldered with the R2Y2s

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I don’t play air, so my opinion may not be the soundest, but after/replacing the F-16AJ seems to be the most likely option.

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That tracks. It’s an absolutely ridiculous position to take that China should get those given non forum topic realities, but I am utterly unsurprised somehow. IMO they get Pakistan, North Korea, perhaps Iran and Vietnam. Maybe (and this is a huge stretch) a subtree of a couple select African countries. Perhaps Sri Lanka.

anyways gib Malay F/A-18D under the F-16A Block 15 OCU

What?B7A2 direct to F2? I think it’s impossible

I think so, F16aj never existed,maybe the next one to be deleted is it.

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I was bein goofy, but when you put it like that it’s not quite as ridiculous as I thought. The F-2’s primary mission was destruction of enemy warships and landing craft. It is the modern equivalent of a torpedo bomber. The torpedo bomber line isn’t a bad spot.

Over time, I have come to be immensely disappointed with the implementation of the F-2’s predecessor, the F-1. It is

  1. a strike fighter IRL yet a Jet Fighter ingame
  2. missing its guided ordnance
  3. losing CCIP for rockets and bombs and gun in the next update, it looks like.

The thing is useless outside air arcade now.

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I think after F-16OCU (F-16AJ anyway) `cause it felt like their own planes while F-4s and F-15s purchased “subtree”

I think it’d be better to have Malaysia in the Chinese tree (with Laos and Vietnam) since Malaysian tanks like the PT-91M would be a better fit for China than Japan, but Singapore would go better with either Japan or Britain imo, though I can see it going to Germany, too.

Any help with this bug report, it looks like gaijin only solve half of the problem, after two years🫠Tkx and type 10 steering problem 2.0

Putting Malaysian/Singaporean in Chinese or Japanese tree are pretty much insulting since both of them are got nothing in common with Malaysian/Singaporean history other than death and destruction during World War II by Japanese or communist insurgency period where Peking providing support to Malayan communist terrorist. Even today Peking are arrogantly tried to claim the whole Malaysian EZZ with their fictional “nine-dash line”.

Indonesian Su-27, Su-30 for Japan
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I’m generally in favor, mainly since a combined Founding ASEAN nations (Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines, Singapore, Malaysia) subtree combined with Japan would bring the nation up to a similar level of potential as the UK tree, which is currently the largest “minor” nation and conveniently a somewhat realistic goal for most nations to achieve through subtrees.

However I also believe the implementation of subtrees in general is currently very flawed. Subtrees are forced within the limited space of shared research tabs and treated more akin to cheap gap fillers for a “main” nation, rather than multiple equal nations supporting eachother. So I hope that a ground-up reworked subtree system could be implemented, not just for Japan, but also for many current subtrees that suffer from the flawed system.

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I am not sure about that. Malaysia operates near exclusively western equipment. There is only three exceptions to this in total, the MiG-29N, Su-30MKM and PT-91M. All of these also have western characteristics:

  • MiG-29N has western Sidewinder missiles integrated
  • Su-30MKM uses many western avionics as well as strike weapons like the Paveway series
  • PT-91 is a post-soviet Polish designed tank, Malaysia’s PT-91M variant was bought in 2005, when Poland was not only a member or NATO, but also the EU.

Besides those Malaysia’s equipment includes variants of vehicles like the FV101, MB-339, F-5, F/A-18, BAE Hawk, A-4 and their FA-50M that are currently on order. They very much follow the predominately western equipment of their fellow Founding ASEAN nations.

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well,there was a mig25 in Japan

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We really can’t say much more about this on this forum, but my logic for being a Japanese subtree is pretty much that the British tree is full, and while there’s good proposals, an ASEAN tree is unlikely.

Japan+Thailand, Malaysia, Philippines, ROK, Indonesia, etc could be a War Thunder Blue Dragons thing for post WW2 vehicles.

Free and Open Indo Pacific and all that.

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100%. Also, are we really gonna put an F/A-18D, F-15SG, Su-30MKM in the Chinese tree when they’re already gonna get all manner of F-16s and Su-30MKK/MK2 all on their own?

An F/A-18D would be much more meaningful to Japan than China ingame. There are actually F/A-18s stationed in Japan defending it at all times. USMC subtree won’t ever happen, but Japanese tree F/A-18s are not some weird weapon system JSDF would never operate alongside. They do. As time goes on, the likelihood of that happening with specifically Malaysian F/A-18Ds increases as well.

Also, I have no idea how else we get Su-30MKM into the game. One of my main hopes is that Su-30MKI, MKM, MKA, and MKK/MK2 all come into the game and not just in the USSR tree.

Su-30MKI for Britain
Su-30MKM for Britain or Japan
Su-30MKA for France
Su-30MKK/MK2 for China (PLAAF)
Su-30MKK/MK2 for Japan/France (Indonesian AF- France has the Netherlands now)

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