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I know. ICV will not be getting ATGM IRL
Why? They really think that 30mm autocannon can providing enough firepower against heavy armour target?
They’re not designed to fight heavy targets?
ATGMs would certainly be a good defensive measure against armored targets, however, I think that because they are meant to be deployed with the Rapid Deployment Regiment, Japan would prefer them to not fight tanks.
Also, ATGMs would cause the testing phase to be longer, and Japan is trying to adopt the ICV as soon as possible.
They are IFV not APC, if they can only be use against enemy infantry or light armour vehicle then just using Type 89 or Type 96 is already enough
In a real-world scenario, the Type 24’s significance as an anti-tank vehicle is minimal. For enemy armor to reach Japanese soil, Japan’s defenses would need to be in an extremely dire situation, likely involving the complete neutralization of both the MSDF and U.S. Navy—a scenario that’s difficult to envision, especially with ASDF air support in play. Anti-tank responsibilities are typically handled by dedicated armor and anti-tank units, while the Type 24 primarily serves as an infantry transport with enough firepower for basic support rather than direct tank engagement.
In a more likely scenario, Japan could face enemy infiltration through airborne troops, where the Type 24’s infantry fighting capabilities would be ideal for responding to and countering smaller, more mobile threats rather than heavy armor.
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Looks like I’m gonna have to bring it out again. Shouldn’t the Ho-Ni III be capable of this as well?
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Okie dokie a lot of stuff to unpack here.
One) plenty of IFVs and Recce vehicles don’t have an ATGM
Two) they’ll be operating in tandem with the type 16s
Three) they’re designed to fight a island hopping war against the Chinese, and are only expected to fight amphibious vehicles and landing craft most of the time.
Four) the Type 87 and Type 96 are both being phased out due to issues with spares and concerns about protection against small arms, Type 87 partially with the RCV and ICV but also with a new hull, and the Type 96 is getting replaced with the Patria AMV
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I think the Ho-Ni III was suppose to have increased horizontal traverse too. Its current gun arc makes it a bit uncomfortable to play.
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The targeting units (KCU) of the Type 93 SAM and Type 11 SAM are equipped with the same IFF antenna as the Stinger.
So why is the existence of these antennas ignored, and why is it assumed that they lack IFF functionality?
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Just call MMPM by datalink.
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still no AV-8 in the tree…
it’s so over
The real appearance of mass-produced Ho-Ro ?!
https://x.com/Taki2121/status/1856928831245787456
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The differences in the gun shield and rear ammo rack are quite noticeable
I’m sure there are many photos out there of rare and poorly understood tanks, mostly belonging to families or organization who don’t realize their significance. Like the Chi-Ho
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- Figure 27 is the prototype model.
- Figure 27-2 is apparently a prototype that was completed with a unique ammunition box, I don’t have any images or further information on this one.
- Figure 27-3 is the production model.
Here are a few extra photos of the production version.
Spoiler
After capture by Americans
There are apparently 5 production model vehicles being assembled at Mitsubishi’s Shimomaruko Plant in this image.
In this well known photo we can see a production Ho-Ro in the background.
Here are the frontal differences between the prototype (left) and production (right) vehicles. The extra bolts on the prototype are an easy to notice difference.
Due to this difference in bolts we can see that the Ho-Ro in the famous Chi-To images taken by the 28th Tank Regiment in Chiba city is actually a production model.
Another photo of a captured production model.
Taki does say that photographs of the production version are rare, but considering that they were captured postwar I’d reckon there’s a few more out there.
A model of the production version.
Spoiler
My source is this modeling blog I stumbled across a few months ago, I linked the Ho-Ro articles but there is plenty more in the way of information and rare photos to see :)
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I haven’t done much research on the Ho-Ro and always thought the one with Ho-Ni style shields were the only version built which is also what we have in the game.
Now that i realized there is a production version so the real question is … GAIJIN WHEN !?
Anyway that ammunition box is seriously massive, i’m wondering if all the ammo were put in that thing was to free up the fighting compartment.
Also the ones that were sent into the frontlines, were they just mass-produced types or did the prototypes also ended up there ?
This one looks like a prototype.
Also this only surviving vehicle is a captured prototype, so apparently it was sent outside of Japan too.
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I’m honestly not sure if it’s really a prototype version, considering how many were made. Methinks it was just an “early” version, that the later version later supplanted. But hey, I’d need to see the production numbers to be sure