Well, I haven’t played other nations BBs, but I’ll still answer; Roma is playable due to a nature of naval battles, where most enemies are bots, although even against them you have to get used to that pathetic RoF and poor accuracy. Once you meet Sovetsky Soyuz or Iowa player, it’s basically impossible to do anything, unless they just ignore you.
I think we can already make the next line even without such stuff, with Italian postwar destroyers, late armored cruisers and pre-dreadnoughts:
That would be nice if those ships that you have proposed could arrive, but Gaijin really forgot all those pre-dreadnought and armored cruisers ( the only one we have is the Ikoma ).
There are a lot of ships from that era for all nations and I still think we jumped too fast to late WWII ships and missle destroyers.
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And Kurama.
Vincenzo Gioberti [ITA]:
tier I
BR: 3.7
after the Dardo (DR)
From datamine.
Unfortunately no third line for now.
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It’s a really bizarre addition, but at this point we’re all used to it. From a historical standpoint, it can be important in order to see the evolution of italian destroyers (the Poeti class are enlarged Maestrales). From a gameplay perspective, however, it’s a complete waste.
P.S.= The addition of the Gioberti at br 3.7 makes the fact that the Corazziere is at br 4.3 even more insane, the difference between the two is functionally literally a single (mediocre) cannon.
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Yep, it’s quite a strange aition as it is now.
You have the Grecale that has better AA and the aft turret completely free at the same Br and the Corazziere at 4.3 with worse AA and just a single gun more.
Apart from the historical value as you said its position in the TT doesn’t really offer anything worth of value.
You can build a full free 3.7 lineup, sure, but they’re all rank I so you can’t even complete the basic tasks with them.
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How many “hypothetical” designs does Italy have that could actually be implemented with the current guidelines for naval (construction begun)?
Wait, why do I already have a new destroyer researched without a single naval battle played? 😆
I think that once you’ve researched an entire tech tree, any RP gained from then on with vehicles in that tree gets retroactively used towards the research of a newly introduced vehicle. I had the same thing happen to me regarding the new German DD.
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So rules have been changed and now we can see such vessels as Emanuele Filiberto Duca d’Aosta, Regina Maria and Scipione Africano in the Italian tree
and have more chances to receive others which Italy historically got from different countries (like Bari, Premuda and etc).
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What’s insulting is Italy is so painfully lacking in tech tree ships.
Let’s make one of the most important Italian battleships a premium!
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The HMS Lion is coming for the next update, hopefully we can see something like the Up41 or some Littorio with 406mm getting added to the game too!!
Since they only add laid down ships, our only hope is probably Impero and some war-time ideas for its improvements. Maybe better RoF at least. Not sure about 406 mm cannons, because Italy didn’t buid their own.
I guess this will never happen with naval devs approach 😕
If they can’t even solve this issue, let alone they would ever care about all the theoretical/practical mess they’ve created (rip Littorio).
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With a recent hint to submarines I’ve decided to make a list of Italian submarines:
Balila class
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Fieramosca class
Archimede class
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Glauco class
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Pietro Micca submarine (not to be confused with earlier Micca class)
Pietro Calvi class
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Foca class
Marcello class
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Alfredo Cappellini class
Benedetto Brin class
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Liuzzi class
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Marconi class
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Leonardo da Vinci was the most successful Italian submarine in WW2.
Cagni class
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Mameli class
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Pisani class
Bandiera class
Squalo class
Bragadin class
Argonauta class
Luigi Settembrini class
Sirena class
Perla class
Adua class
Argo class
Acciaio class
Flutto class
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German submarines received shortly before Armistice
Cold War modernization of Tritone class
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S 503 Pietro Calvi (Cold War rebuild of Bario submarine of Tritone/Flutto serie 2 class)
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Gianfranco Gazzana-Priaroggia class (ex US Tench)
Evangelista Torricelli class (ex US Balao class)
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Enrico Tazzoli class (ex US Gato class)
Livio Piomarta class (ex US Tang class)
Enrico Toti class
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Marconi class nuclear submarines - 1 laid down - cancelled
Sauro class (serie I-IV)
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Sauro serie I and II
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Serie I:
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Serie II:
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Sauro serie III and IV, 4 in service (III - S 522 Salvatore Pelosi, S 523 Giuliano Prini, IV - S 524 Primo Longobardo, S 525 Gianfranco Gazzana Priaroggia)
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Todaro class (joint development with Germany, also known as Type 212A), 4 in service (S526 Salvatore Todaro, S527 Scirè, S528 Pietro Venuti, S529 Romeo Romei)
Mameli class (U212 NFS - 2 laid down: S 530 Goffredo Mameli, S 531 Pietro Calvi.
Other:
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R-class (Romolo) transport submarines
Small submarines:
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Midget submarines
Captured submarines:
More classes (includind WW1) you can find on Marina Militare website.
Romanian submarines:
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S 521 Delfinul of Soviet Kilo class
PS feel free to correct me if I’m wrong or add smth, I’m not an expert in submarines.
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No Montefalcone?
CM class? it’s under other (small boats), I’m not sure if it’s suitable for the game, also can’t find photos.
There are few pics of the CM, but well hope they do a class itself for the smaller submarines.
A little information about the Hungarian-built, Austro-Hungarian submarines
Havmanden-class:
- U 21 (UBAG-Fiume)
- U 22 (UBAG-Fiume)
- U 20 (DGT- Arzenal)
- U 23 (DGT-Arzenal)
UB-II class:
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- U 29 (Danubius)
- U 30 (Danubius)
- U 31 (Danubius)
- U 32 (Danubius)
Caintare Navale built two, the U 27 and U 28, but they contracted DGT since they didnt have enough space, therefore all 6 was built effectively in Hungary.
UB II U 40 (Caintare Navale- DGT ) replacement of the U 12 Dutch-class
UB II U 41 (DGT- Arzenal) replacement of the U 6 Dutch-class, received the U 6’s newly ordered petrol engines that were not built in due the U 6 being lost. It also received a periscope from the U 6 and the battery pack from the U 5
Since the engines of the U 6 were heavier than the ones of the UB II class, the superstructure of the U 41 was lengthened by one rib at the engine room. Therefore the U 41 ended up longer and with a bigger displacement than the typical UB II class sub.
DGT : Dunai Gőzhajózási Társaság, Óbuda
UBAG: Ungarische Unterseebotsbau AG
Danubius: Ganz-Danubius
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