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I can say this because it’s been in the game for a very long time, I’m a very experienced player, and its extremely hard limited by the TYPE of SPAA it is…? Are you about to tell me the OTOMATIC ISN’T extremely bad? About 95% of the community will hardcore disagree with you.

The rest of the SPAA?

Other SPAA, who are all just about strictly superior?

I think what makes you come to conclusions like this is the SPAA label that it gets in the game. Think outside of the box for a minute. This ‘‘SPAA’’ has ways of dealing with MBTs head-on, something not many can do. The only other SPAA that comes to mind is the ADATS (0.3 BR higher anyway), but I don’t really see many people praising it for its anti-air capabilites neither.

Look at players who enjoy OTOMATIC. Most of them rarely use it for its anti-air role. It is very limited against the top tier jets, but most SPAAs are, only a handful can defend against something like an Su-30 fitted with Kh38MTs. But keep in mind it is at 11.3. Besides the Oto, only the Tor sits at that BR, which is undoubtadly better as anti-air, (namely against jets) but that’s basically it.

I feel like the only reason people might say the OTOMATIC is bad is because it is the highest SPAA type in the Italian tree and thus expect it to be on a similar level to end of the line SPAAs of other nations.

Also notice I never claimed it to be a great SPAA either, I said it is a fun vehicle. You calling it ‘‘extremely bad’’, however, I really disagree with.

Which is cool as far as “fun” goes, but its not exactly GOOD at this job either, it’s just CAPABLE of defending itself. It’s still a trash SPAA as far as ACTUALLY being an SPAA is concerned and it’s an incredibly mediocre if not downright leaning towards bad “light” tank if you try to play it like that as well.

Gee I wonder why that is the case

Not every vehicle needs to be objectively strong to be fun and enjoyable, ever gave that a thought? :)

Ever consider I didn’t rate its subjective fun factor in my original post?

I know you didn’t. You only seem to care about the raw performance, but even there you are wrong about the OTOMATIC. I don’t expect you to understand, you’d have to try it on your own and it would need to fit your playstyle. Of course a vehicle will underperform if you don’t pick a correct playstyle.

You can’t gather that from what I’ve said. I’ve simply only referred to their performance here…

In no way am I wrong here.

Well, I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree then.

Romania K2 Black Panther


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Even if Romania decides to buy them, I doubt we would see a Romanian K2 in WT before South Korea itself gets added.

The trailer only showed the French SAMP/T, so I really hope Gaijin won’t give both nations the same vehicles, since Italy uses their own trucks.

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It’s happening boys.

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I wonder if they should raise BR? Naaah let’s just keep it how it is

Nah man, this and IRIS-T SLM surely is as effective as the Tan-SAM kai for example.

The SAMP/T feels absolutely insane in test drive. I will test it out in a custom battle with a friend in a few days.

A forum post about the SAMP/T.

The RCWS had problems with stabilization as firing the main cannon would throw it off zero or something…It should be fixed this year, according to rumors. This stabilization problem is why the mbt’s have not used them for a while now.
But yes it should/could be optional…Gaijin is probably too lazy amidst c&p-ing new unique vehicles into 5 different tech trees and calling it a day.

Spoiler

the test bed in Unterstadt. 2A4 with 2A7HU turret

Whoa whoa whoa does that RCWS in the picture also come with additional smokes?

It does, and on one of the initial handover ceremony photographs in Hungary, the 2A7HU had the full RCWS smoke kit too.

also on the wisent 2

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