Gen 2-4 jets rebalance

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You can barely outpull an AIM-9G in a MiG-21S. AIM-9G has a lot of range, long burn time and is slow at the beginning, meaning that these 18Gs isn’t a bad pull. AIM-9Ls completely outclass a MiG-21S, you can’t even merge and start a fight with a plane that has AIM-9Ls in a MiG-21S, you have to run away from him.

What do you mean ruin the MiG-29 9-12 and 9-13. They are ruined right now and I want to fix them. They don’t have their primary missile, which is R-73. They have incorrect flight models, worse than irl. They are artificially brought up to the F-16A standard by R-27ER, which they never carried.

If anything you want to ruin them by bumping up their BR when they receive their R-73s and flight models.

I’ve never had a 9G even launch on me in my SPS K, the only reason I brought flare pods with SPS K was for Su-25 and A-10 engagements, otherwise there’s no reason to bring flares, and the 21S has a better engine.

Mig-29 9.12 and 9.13 are balanced currently.

There is absolutely no reason they should be even remotely competitive in dogfights.

They ruin the vibe of early cold war gen 2 jets. They look out of place and have OP missiles for their BR, which don’t necessarily make them OP, but allow for kills that should never happen.

In the worst, unhistorical, most lame way possible.

Real-life Mig-29s used R-60Ms, nothing unhistorical about their loadout.

MiG-29, Su-27 and R-73 were all designed together, meant to be used together in a doctrine. Stop with the cherry picking.

Contrails =/= smoke trail. They only form at altitudes where the aircraft is also leaving a contrail.

This is incorrect

J-11A should be 3.3 since it has the same radar and same RWR as J-11 and it can only guide one fox3 while others can guide at least two.

These I think should go to 14.0.
If we use Su-27SM as benchmark, J-11A is inferior due to radar , RWR and avionics, F15 and F16 are superior due to their radar, RWR and Avionics.

why?? you want the JAS 39A to be the same br as the 39C yet not having RB99, makes no sense,
you also want the AV-8B Plus to be the same br as the F16C F15C Su27SM etc? Also makes no sense

i need an explination for these ones. its a subsonic attacker with 2 medicore missiles and its impossible to flare the 9L because of gaijins spaghetti code.

13.3 is reserved for bad fighters with Fox 3s like J-8F, Tornado or F-4F ICE.

Su-27s and their derivatives I believe will be equal to F-15C and F-16C after flight model buffs.

Read this V

Exactly, it’s an attacker. Attackers shouldn’t be balanced in terms of the ability to kill other planes, but in terms of the ability to kill ground units. AV-8A/C and other early Harriers are the only ones, that are bad at both, but since they are attackers, it’s better to have them suffer a little, than to cause trouble for flareless fighters and such.

It’s also not impossible to flare the AIM-9L.

I mean yeah give them the R-73 but let the MiG-29s keep the R-60s, they used them. If anything they could get a stock loadout with like all R-60s. But R-73s would move them up at least a bit, and that’s just how it is

J8f is bad because of its aerodynamics and only 2 fox3, J11A is bad because its avionics. One can see but not strong, the other one is strong but blind

I don’t think they are equal. su27 and j11a have inferior radar. Better radar means one can see and launch the attack before one’soppoents, which gives a huge advantage in combat. i think J11b is equal to f15 and f16

Does it?
F4F from the TT has better RWR.

Guys, read thoroughly. I wonder if even anyone read the R27s rework part, which I spent the most time on.