Game is unplayable for ground with Heli / CAS spam

As i said before you’re playing combined arms so you have to deal with any sort of threat wether you like it or not.

İf you’re abuser then sure, but then again most people at top tier actually brings their favourite top tier tank in first spawn. So this claim is simply half true in terms practise.

Again you’re playing combined arms, not tanks mode only. This situation has always been the same ever since gaijin introduced combined arms.

Sorry but game is supposed to be balanced. Trying to justify unbalance is like saying that there are no unbalanced vechicles because ‘you have to deal with any sort of threat wether you like it or not.’

lmao

  1. This is a tactic that has nothing to do with abuse
  2. This game is not all about top tier

This is why people are asking for Tanks Only mode or an option like with night battles to join the que for people who just want TO.

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This game represents a fictional world war scenario where all nations trying to use their all avaliable vehicles, at least trying.

İt is actually abuse just like how Heli players were abusing first spawn with insane unguided rockets, do i need to remind you that gaijin actually had to take actions for that?

Most situations you complained about actually happens at high tiers, especially helicopter situations, so you were actually reffering high tier gameplay.

So what you’re basically saying is you dont have enough skills jump into air vehicles in order counter enemy planes or helicopters? Well well have the table turns, using your Logic it seems like tankers like you are also not good at certain sections in this game.

For tanks only mode, im not against that idea since some people prefers different options compare to others but then again Gaijin clearly showing us they do intent to combine all forces into one thing, and that is so called “Combined Arms”.

Sorry but if You are going to even start comparing WT to representation of battlefield, there is no point in discussion.

Sorry but no.

I can spawn with F4U-4B, 2x 20mm (anti-tank belts), 2x 1000 lbs bombs and 4x hvar rockets by just capping a zone.

I can spawn AH-1F with 8x Tow-2 for just capping a zone.

There are many examples on which tactic of just capping a zone with reserve tank works.

My stats on F4U-4B and Mi-28a says it all, but belive in what You want ;).

Which doesn’t work and it can be seen by just playing the game.

Some people are generally not interested in aircraft, so playing that for prolonged periods of time wouldn’t be fun for them.

As long Air has a dedicated mode, Ground should as well, there’s no reason why this couldn’t happen.

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Why? Cause you cant accept the fact that many things happening in Warthunder area also happens in real battlefield?

Sure Warthunder lacks vital parts when it comes represent real battlefield but that doesnt mean its not too far away.

By using reserve tanks i assume?

İf its not then Gaijin should take action about low and mid tier gameplay cause that is not a way to deserve fully loaded cas plane.

İ would like to see your actual performance against actual Sam systems and planes such as Pantsir and F-16C for example.

Also Mi-28A was such a busted helicopters back in the days when Gaijin decided to put into 9.7. İncluding myself, many players who owns Mi-28A actually abused that advantage alot, so its safe to say your Mi-28A stats doesnt mean shit actually :)

Gaijin and many people actually thinks otherwise, just because certain percentage of community doesnt like the idea of combined arms doesnt actually means its a bad idea.

Although does it need rework in certain areas? Certainly.

İ believe i perfectly explained that im not against the idea of tanks only mode for certain people but then again im not the one you should try to convince.

Same deal.

Because what happens in WarThunder would never happen irl.

But this is how things work.

You can check my AH-1F stats ;)

For me it doesn’t work as there is no reason for uptier/downtier if a person who just caps zone can delete the best tank from the game without any issue.

And that is where we agree.

Even at 10.7 it’s pretty busted, considering it can see 9.7/10.0 IR SPAAs that won’t even be able to fire back at it.

You are telling us that you have very good stats above the average and then you complain that it is unbalanced! What you say doesnt make any sense again!

It doesn’t make sense because You can’t read or just troll.

If I can’t defend against something via game desing, it means that that thing is unbalanced.

I think someone with 62k battles can surely work around unbalanced stuff.
Though, this doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem.

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Thats why its trying to simulate fantasy scenarios, not fully real ones.

Sorry i didnt get it? You mean it works by using reserve tank or low-mid tier gameplay actually requires so little sp for fully loaded Cas plane.

Same thing again :) You need to do better then that.

İf we assume there is no Spaa or Sam system to counter that player then Yes you’re right, but half of the time opposite situation happens.

Good to know then.

Yes but no.

Starting with 10.3 it can and will be seein many Sam systems that can effectively engage with Mi-28A and considering the Russian counterpart that sits at 11.0 with Thermals, i say its pretty balanced compare to what it was used to be.

So it should also make some ‘fantasy’ in other places.

I say that at any B.R. really You can use reserve tank in order to get into plane by just capping a zone.

The non he-vt/rocket spaa is not as effective against air as with it. That is why on most B.Rs. planes can dominate without much of work.

If it was unbalanced against you then your stats would be below the average.

Sorry but if You can’t think then there is nothing I can do.

İts up to Gaijin not to me.

Which actually abusing a really old tactic that should’ve been removed long time ago.

Thats just Gaijin’s faults.

Even at WWII many spaas actually had access to He-Vt shells that can effectively engage with planes.

Should require rework for that case.

I’m really happy that we could find an agreement and talk in proper manner.

People want TO/option to play without CAS, because it is the most non invasive thing that Gaijin could do. All the times when gaijin tried to somehow ‘repair’ the balance, both sides (air and ground) was dissatisfied with the changes.

Look up the statistics, Air did not dominate the ground as people think.