The veteran player base is chained to war thunder and the chain is called “investment”.
Not alot of people are willing to forgo and leave, and the fresh meat easily outnumberes the few who do
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The better armoured one should be 13.0 as it’s the best ground vehicle in the game bar none.
My highest BR vehicle is the 8.7 MTMC so, can’t say I agree or disagree. The 87 BMPT threads I’ve counted over the last few months would suggest a 15.0 BR should be in place for them tho
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“Misdeeds” “disrespect”.
The reality is neither of those have occurred, and you’re attempting to attribute malice where there is none, without even attempting to apply Hanlon’s Razor to anything legitimate you might have as complaint.
In-fact, all of your legitimate complaints are prime examples of Hanlon’s Razor.
As for potential explanations for some of them:
Zero damage can be attributed to packet loss and server instability from criminals DDOSing servers.
We’d have to see videos of your instances live to attribute anything else during this time of instability.
The clip where there was allegedly a missile hit doesn’t have network data in the bottom left to assess it was another reason or the ongoing server instability.
This was never said.
What the actual reason was given is “Turn rate of the aircraft has been calibrated to align with the values specified in both the USSR description book (20.5 degrees per second or 17.5 seconds for a 6100kg aircraft at 600 km/h) and the NATOPS manual (matching a reported ~12 degrees per second)”
Does not exist.
New SPAA cannot be evidence of bias when all ten tech trees have SPAA from 1.0 - 12.7 that deal with fixed-wing CAS [FCAS].
And helicopters are vastly over-performing in defensive capabilities and those should be fixed, and all top SPAA will be able to deal with them when fixed.
You used a 2 year range for SPAA additions. In the last year and a half USA obtained Skink, T77E1, XM246, a Skink premium SPAA, CLAWS, and NASAMS [2].
That is 6 SPAA in the last year and a half.
France, USSR, and Germany got SPAA in March 2024.
USSR, and Sweden got SPAA in June 2024.
Year and a half mark:
USSR, Britain, and China got SPAA in September 2024.
USA got 2 SPAA, USSR, Britain, Italy, and Germany got SPAA in November 2024.
China, Germany x2, Italy, and Britain got SPAA in December 2024.
Britain and USA got SPAA in March 2025.
Japan, Germany, USSR, China, Israel, Sweden, Britain, USA x2 got SPAA in June 2025.
France, Italy, Japan, Britain, and USSR [Buk] got SPAA in September 2025.
Japan, Sweden, USA, China, and USSR [TOR-M1] got SPAA in December 2025.
And USSR got SPAA in March 2026.
BMPT was a Puma moment.
BMD4s are not OP… Also, “USSR doesn’t have multiple BMD and BTR variants.” - Same logic as Stryker.
USA got another IFV this major update as well.
Gaijin has been adding more naval vehicles in the last 2 years than all previous years.
Top sim maps are 128x128km, not 70. There are 70km options, but aren’t mandatory nor popular at the top end.
We have double AIM-120 racks are mounted on Typhoons, F-18s, and F-15C GE in-game already. Your post contains overt disinformation, you should fix that.
And yes, we have half a dozen photographs of R-77 double racked on a 2012 version of the Flanker, and at least someone has posted the R-77 double rack brochure which cites at least 3 Flankers: One from 2010, the one from 2012 we have photos of, and another I forgot the name of. Because the brochure was made over a decade ago.
So yeah, you have a lot of legitimate Hanlon’s Razor complaints and examples in your post.
You also have duds in your post.
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Good luck. Naval players have been trying to get fixes for years.
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Yes there is and was repeatedly gaijin has ignored post from players, creators upon multiple topics like balancing and additions to the game which some can definitely call a form of disrespect and no malice is being put on anyone just pure disappointment to dev team
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What the actual reason was given is “Turn rate of the aircraft has been calibrated to align with the values specified in both the USSR description book (20.5 degrees per second or 17.5 seconds for a 6100kg aircraft at 600 km/h) and the NATOPS manual (matching a reported ~12 degrees per second)”
[/quote]. Really ?
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Does not exist
[/quote] let me re iterate this entire LINEUPS of vehicles from the early 2000-2010s were added to Russia ground some of these vehicles not even in production were added at br’s where they can see early leopards, abrams, hell even the amx 32 the su 30 was equipped with a missile put into service in 2016 while America and its allies got a missile from 2004 some not even getting it at all the pantsir was added a air defense system out into service in 2012. While other nations in game only had AA from the 1980’s-90’s and even still now how do Russia get another single vehicle air defense system while nations in game capable of having them don’t ? I don’t see your point in defending gaijin here
Yea and how long did it take for them to be added specifically for the CGE the double racks for the su 30sm came with it off rip from the dev server but the CGE had to literally get multiple bug reports, multiple forum post just for it to be CONSIDERED to be added tho in the end it was
Your just typing words and not providing evidence with these claims
Before you come at me YOU correct ehat you got going on
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@codehitman22-psn F-5E NATOPs is one of Gaijin’s internal sources for F-5E. Which has nothing to do with in-game sources as those don’t exist.
So your own post disproves your own claims.
Gaijin has not ignored our feedback, they took it into consideration and didn’t find myself and others believable, which is fair enough.
So your evidence for Russian bias is vehicles were added that are barely as good as 30 - 40 year older designs… okay, that’s evidence of no bias.
Nations getting newer equipment to compete with older equipment is evidence of no bias.
By the way, USA has a 2026 loadout F-15C GE.
The F-15C GE got double pylons in 1 month. USSR got double pylons in 3 months.
Using double pylons as evidence is further evidence of no Russian bias, in-fact the F-15C GE changed the precedent.
Also I highly doubt you’ve never seen this photograph before:
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“the fresh meat easily outnumberes the few who do” (who do leave) - yes - that is exactly my point - it is the “fresh meat” who buy into top tier premiums - not experienced players who know better.
So it is the fresh meat who Gaijin is making money off - experienced players spend much less money than those who fall for teh glitz and glamour!
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Thank you for this thread bud.
I agree 100%
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I don’t think this is a main issue, the main issue is they didn’t want to admin their system got problem and the game has to change. For me opinion the current gameplay already outdated, they add more and more thing all served for 1 reason: Increase players’ grind times. At the end, the game is still capture 3 point in ground and naval, killing every enemy in air, adding anti-ship missile, mines, AP bomb, missile carrier and etc is just useless since they can’t do a thing or their environment had been cut.
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Gaijin has exclusive sources about f5 series from Senator Armstrong himself.
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Unfortunatly the community is so ignorant now they would never do that, noone is stepping up to restart that movment, though we desperately need it its very slowly getting more popular most people blame gaijins issues on skill problems instead of a greedy company
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Show exactly the document from the natops that gaijin themselves have said they have used for the f5E flight model
https://youtu.be/OLMaSogbnVo?si=39d00jJaFyRKubfg It took 3 months to get double r77 pylons???
This could literally be any flanker past the 30 you showed nothing but an underbelly picture of a flanker, what nation is this ? What flanker varient is it? Is it a prototype? Is it a mock up ? Is it air worthy so many questions from this picture answer them
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Match maker is totally broken today because everyone’s playing Russia for some weird reason…
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cof bmpt plague cof
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100% agree!
Su-27SM3 [alleged to be SM2] was added 3 months prior to it getting the double R-77 pylons.
Your posts are denying F-15C GE double pylons by denying double R-77 pylons.
Obviously they’re not mock-ups.
If you can’t find the F-5E NATOPs manual with sustained turn rate information, that’s on you.
I’m not your library.
Without parity the game becomes 1 nation vs the others. we have seen this before and it is VERY unhealthy for the game to have 100 players queueing a single nation. this update and the last one has completely ruined the 10+ bracket of play. from 13 min queues for Russian players and the feeling of staleness from only ever fighting the same thing over and over just kinda ruins it. one of the fun things about playing a minor nation was that you got to fight every type of tank now its just BMPT, mi28s and the Su30 every game.
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