If only we had complained about this for the last 6 or 7 years ago something surely would have changed by now, right?
Sarcasm aside, I will wait and see how the tank will peform in live matches before making any comment. Most of US tought that those FnF missiles from the QN506 would be op and then we all saw how bad it were.
But yeah, their balancing method is lazy, inefficient and boderline incompetent.
Japan was under-BR’d for years due to only facing even more under-BR’d over-performing aircraft from USA.
Once Japan could face everyone, its lethal BRs could finally be addressed.
@ehj78
How is TPK being correctly BR’d Russian bias? France isn’t Russia.
Penetration doesn’t matter that much against aircraft.
TPK is better, your post is just defending Russia & attacking France.
Did you even read what he said? He said it is because the BTR-ZD is better, but at the same BR.
Penetration? He said the calibre of the cannons.
It looks like the opposite lol.
BTR-ZD gets less ammo.
They have the same amount of crew, similar speeds, and similar velocities.
So yeah I’d rather have the TPK cause over double the ammo.
I’m killing aircraft with these things, and I’m not great at aiming so I’d rather just have more ammo.
Gun over front doesn’t matter cause I’m going after aircraft.
Im not sure how they could balance with skill lvl too. Would they only look at “high skilled” player?
2S38
Strf 9040 BILL
M3A3 Bradley
All three vehicles at the same BR.
No they do not balance vehicles based off of characteristics or feedback. Otherwise all three of these vehicles would have different BR values.
I don’t think that skill should be measured because it’s quite impossible. They should rather do vehicle comparisons because it’s becoming stupid.
The EBR 1951 is higher than the hellcat while having litearally no advantage except turret rotation. And that doesn’t help as the gun can’t pen anything.
TPK vs BTR-ZD is another evident example.
AMX 13 fl11 and M24 also
They should just compare the characterisitcs of similar vehicles from different nations and just stop applying stupid statistics that are irrelevent.
EBR is 5.3
M18 is 5.7
M24 is undertiered currently.
AMX-13 has better armor profile than the M24.
My bad I mixed things up
Armour profile ? Since when does armour even matter on light tanks ? One shot and it’s gone just like the M24.
Yes and nothing is being done about it because StAtS say that everything is alright.
I’m not trying to compare all vehicles here, just saying that the BRs are messed up because of how the stats are being made and that a simple comparison between vehicles clearly exposes the problem.
If the shot bounces, also lighter shells from SPAAs.
I agree, vehicle characteristics should be what the game is balanced around. Not player skill. Especially if that skill is hidden from the playerbase.
I didn’t say they’re balanced well, I said the statistics they’re balanced on are far more than just winrates.
Well if they’re not balanced well there’s obvioulsy a problem right ?
I’m sure there are far more things in the stats than just the winrate but please just face it, it doesn’t work and leads to ridiculous situations.
Just look at the EBR 1951 and the sdkfz 234/2. The kfz is better in every single way expect for turret rotation and yet it’s sitting at 3.3 when the EBR is at 5.3 ?? Why the hell has that happened ? The EBR can’t pen anything even from the side while the Kfz does a better job even at 5.3
I have no idea what you’re talking about. The Sd.Kfz. 234/2 is undertiered, it should be 3.7 or 4.0, but the EBR most certainly better.
In what way ?
The gun is terrible and can’t pen anything else than light tanks and i’m not even talking about the fact that 5.3 is constantly being uptiered to 6.0 minimum.
Speed never exceeds 70 and is terrible in cross-country.
armour is inexistent and any 50cal (which every american and soviet tanks have at this BR) will wreck you.
The tank should have two drivers like that swedish tank which i forgot the name but no the second one is just a machine gunner for some reason.
You get what i’m talking about or still not ?
The EBR is overtiered, it should be 4.7, but it is better than the 234/2. The speed is still more than good enough, the armor doesn’t need to be good because it’s not a brawler, it’s flanker, and the gun is objectively better than on the 234/2. It’s reload is 3 seconds longer but it has over double the expolosive mass in its shell and while its flat penetration is 2 mm lower, it has better angled penetration which is the penetration that actually counts.
And all 3 are closer to each other than not, with Strf 9040 BILL & M3A3 being direct analogues with each other as well as BMP-2M, and VCC-80/30.
Yes 4.7 would be clearly the right BR.
Yes it’s quite better than the Kfz but by a small margin. I’ve tested it a lot and in a 5.3 battle i prefer to take the german one as the gun is way more reliable.
The EBR is really bad in any situation because it’s just as fast as its tracked competitor while having no penetration at all and worse armour
Still going to have the issue of having gaijin sitting there choosing brs by looking at a stat card. This is how they choose the inital brs.
If you want them to move the ebr 1954 back to 4.7 i wouldnt mind. That was where they thought it would be facing similar performance vehicles. And 279, vidar, ect.