Gaijin makes Germany Useless

I don’t get it. Hungary isn’t ingame. Just Italy is. And I don’t care about some subtree - based justifications…at the end the stuff is part of Italian ingame TT. I don’t mind if there’s a hungarian sticker on that statcard.

Then what was the point? Because you aren’t making it clear at all.

This is false. It is in game, alongside the Italian vehicles.

Plus, you are ignoring the fact that you don’t want ANY German vehicles in the Italian tech tree, even though they fulfill your requirements for a vehicle to be added to a tree. You are wholly biased towards Germany in a way that is illogical and clearly not fair.

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Wounder why they can’t use Abrams tanks to bolster up all those mini countries.

because nobody bought those

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Does Hungary have an Abrams??? Does South Africa? What about BeNeLux??? SHOW ME where they have an Abrams and you can absolutely have it.

i think maybe people should read and think about what they wrote earlier in this discussion, cause this is going in circles

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Why would Italy get Egypt? Just why? But yeah. Sure. You guys can absolutely have an Abrams if that happens.

It’s us making the same point with them trying to rebuttal with a point that has already been disproven. It is simple ignorance that is causing this, and not all ignorance from me.

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Why Hungary? There’s no conncetion. Hungary and Italy dont have defense joint ventures, never were military allies etc. Its just out of the blue. Same as if you’d say Yemen is going to Italy or whatever country.

only way it would make sense if egypt has vehicles that fill lineups which gaijin tries to take this into account when making subtrees


This comes directly from the Hungarian Governments website. Clearly they aren’t NOTHING to each other. Plus, the alliance in the 1930s and 40s.

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Dude literally forgets NATO and the EU is a thing

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We could have avoided a ton of copy paste if they didn’t try to make minor nations independent and try to compete with major nations, Italy wouldn’t have to get a bunch of copy paste from Hungary if it was part of Germany, as well as not having to rely on American vehicles to fill gaps, instead be able to rely more on domestic designs alongside the Germans and maintain the integrity of the Italian/German/Russian and American trees all at once.

Hungary definitely not the most EU/NATO oriented nation and that doesn’t give it a connection with Italy specifically.

So what are you saying? You want Italian C&P F-16s and AV-8B+ in the German TT?

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but germany has the same problem? The only “German” plane after the WW2 stuff is the alpha jet …

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What’s the issue? It’s part of their sub-tree and it’s the only MBT they have that can compete with the dominant Strvs and Leopards. They desperately need it.

The Centauro isn’t an IFV, and the Lynx isn’t good.

That’s a crazy statement. Italy has a poor tech tree compared to other nations across all tiers. The only saving grace is their sub-trees, mainly Hungary. And even then, they only get one good tank, which is inferior to the 2A7V on the dev server. It’s gimped. Try actually playing Italy.

I agree with this point. While France getting Belgium (and perhaps Switzerland) is understandable, the Netherlands should have gone to Germany. Nevertheless, we still have Argentina, and that should be enough.

This just sounds like “Germany suffers” all over again.

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Doesn’t deny they are allies and would go to war together if article 5 was acted

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