FRG T-80U: Grand Theft *Armour*

FRG T-80U


Grand Theft Armour


^ Not the T-80U in German possession, no pictures are declassified ^

History and Introduction

When the T-80 first appeared in front of the global public eye it sent many tank designers a wake up call. Building upon the traditional eastern designs of the T-64 and T-72, the T-80 featured better armour, the autoloader from the T-64, composite armour like the T-72 (but better) and the 2A46M-1 cannon sporting lethal APFSDS rounds as well as gun launched ATGMs. The most striking feature however, was its unmistakable Gas Turbine engine. The T-80B was the world’s first mass produced MBT with such an engine, and the performance spoke for itself.

The T-80 was the progenitor for a series of MBTs that found service in almost a dozen militaries around the world including Armenia, Pakistan, Cyprus, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, South Korea and Belarus (important for our story today). But with this fame, came those with ulterior motives. The western powers created elaborate methods in order to get their hands on the brand new Soviet Main Battle Tank. The United Kingdom created a shell trading company which was, officially, supposed to deliver the T-80s to Morroco, but they were re-directed to British territory. They conducted trials and even handed one over to the Americans to tests at Aberdeen Proving grounds.

The Germans, not to be let behind, also staged a plot to get their hands on a T-80. In 1985, after a series of ‘thefts’ of Soviet equipment including the T-64 in previous years, they ‘acquired’ a T-80U from a ‘contact’ in Belarus. The game was on. They put the vehicle through rigorous testing, including the armour protection, optronics, FCS and the autoloader mechanisms.

However, while the above mentioned content is accurate, there is one small lie. The Germans intentionally (and later unintentionally) filled the air with misinformation. The T-80U that arrived from Belarus may have actually originated in Ukraine. The explanation behind this is that the actual operation to acquire the T-80U was not undertaken in 1985, but rather in the early 1990s, probably 1992. This is made mroe certain from CIA intelligence reports on spotting the new T-80 in Kharkiv. And while Belarus was alleged to be the source of the MBT, it was actually from Soviet divisions in Ukraine, which, nearing the demise of the USSR, were is disarray and similarly to the UK operation, there were black market sales by the Spetstekhnika organization to different countries which then got re-routed to western nations for evaluation and testing.

Some sources even say that the T-80U was recevied via the UK operation. However I beleive it most likely came from Ukraine and they were simply not ‘accused’ as a form of protecting the nascent state and fostering goodwill (nothing says we dont like you more than snitching on you).

This allowed the Germans to advance their own studies into the fields of protection as well as anti-armour kinetic energy penetrators in the form of new APFSDS rounds that could challenge Soviet ERA.

In-game the FRG T-80U could serve as a nice end of the line vehicle to top off the GDR MBT line after the T-72M1 and possibly the trialled T-72S (export T-72B).

Specifications

Weight: 46t
Suspension: Torsion Bar
Engine: GTD-1250 Gas Turbine Engine (1250hp)
P/W: 27.2hp/t
Top Speed: 80km/h
Crew: 3 (Commandet, Gunner, Driver)

—Equipment—

Night Vision: Yes (All)
TVD: Generation 1 (Gunner only)
Laser Range Finder: Yes

—Armament—

Main Gun: 125mm 2A46M-1 Cannon

  • Stabiliser: Yes
  • Elevation Limits: -5, +15
  • Traverse Limits: 360
    Co-axial: 7.62mm PKT MG
    Anti Aircraft: 12.7mm NSVT HMG

—Ammunition—

  • 120mm: 45 rounds (28 in Autoloader)
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  • 12.7mm: 500 (100 in Magazine)
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  • 7.62mm: 1250 (250 in Magazine)
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Photo Gallery

Sorry, no images are declassified.
Although there is one document in the Bundes Archiv that might shed more light onto this story, however it is currently not digitsed/accessible. I will try to update this suggestion when the information is available.

Sources

I usually dont make such suggestions, but since people have been making suggestions like this (captured vehicles), I thought it would be fair and justified. As always, PLEASE remain respectful in the thread.

Data and content will keep updating as more information is revealed. Thank you for reading!

Would you like to see the FRG T-80U in game?
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Fair enough.

We do a little trolling.

+1 for interesting read, but not exactly keen on addition itself. I respect the hustle tho.

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+1 absolutely because funny. The obvious placement is as the cap of a GDR line though it would make a good squadron vehicle or pack premium. I’m sick of T-Series event reward so let’s not do that.

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Would be funny if we got a russian turbine engine in the german tree before a domestic german one
(leo with turbine)(marder with turbine?)(panther II with turbine)(Jagdtiger with turbine)

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This would make an excellent squadron vehicle, considering the nature of the Swedish T 80 U. Even better if it were added to the tech tree, though I’m doubtful the snail would be so generous.

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squadron is fine imo, although id love a purely cosmetic arrow pointing from the GDR line to it

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+1 i’m always all for FGR/GDR armor in the German Tech Tree

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While “GDR sub-tree” can benefit from some end-of-the-line tank, something inside me says getting pure Soviet tech in German TT is kind of redundant… maybe if there weren’t OSA and Strela in TT already – both of which are rightfully GDR’s vehicles, – the pure amount of copy-pastium wouldn’t hurt so much to introduce this one

well if u have other preferences im making a suggestion for the GDR trialled T-72S too heh

Personally I don’t think it should come yet. The tank is full of unknowns and is still heavily classified but maybe if more information and photos come out I’d fully support it

why is it classified after almost 40 years?