I took a quick look. It looks like Rheinmetall actually prototyped a 140mm on a 2A4 themselves. I would say the auto loaded 140mm might be to strong for the game anyways, but we’ll have to wait and see.
Oh we did for a long ass time, most recently during the whole Hunter spectacle, but at this point we just gave up, we are pushing for so many things, alpha jet, Kf41, fixing the PUMA IFV we are just exhausted since it all doesnt get any results.
About your list german playerbase propably gonna fight for any leopard variant and the best situation would be both nations getting the 140mm version from my perspective, besides that yeah germany could dearly need the F/A 18.
The other vehicles i myself dont directly see any isssues with going to france
I understand as well that the variety for france might be nice to add a Leopard, but it feels like Leoapards are worse then russian vehicles at this point for top tier being given to everyone and many future nations potentialy would get Leopards as well again
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Another good example where is frenchs DF105 equivalent. The french community fought ahrd for the SK-105A2 and got it, but in the end at one point gave up on the DF105 because they got tired
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to be fair that should be filled with french light tanks and other vehicles , the leopard variant isnt needed for that
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I’m more speaking from just an MBT standpoint. There’s definitely no clear answer, which is why I’ve been thinking the RUAG 2A4 can possibly go to both since it gives France something other then the Leclerc after the AMX-32 and would give a tank with actual armor. While Germany gets a Leopard with some French inspired flair that could be useful.
Ps: I also understand the feeling for the Alpha jet and strike aircraft. French ground has had vehicle types kept from us for years that we’re just suddenly starting to get now. Most of our top tier vehicles are nerfed for “balance” as well.
This looks exactly like post this but with different arguments which are just as bad. Especially the suggestion of splitting a nation up, by far the worst take about this topic so far. Both giving each nation different vehicles or both the same are bad outcomes.
There’s no compelling reason to assign modern Swiss equipment to France, and barely any reason to give them WWII/Cold War era equipment either. The majority of modern and old equipment is either Swiss, German, American, British, collaborations with them or inspired by them. They are not French with the only outliers being the amx-13, mirage (which we don’t use anymore) and helicopters.
The lack of a French line-up between the Leclerc and the amx-30 is not a excuse to give them a Swiss subtree as there are more than enough vehicles to plug that. Claiming a tank has certain similar features to another tank is a horrible excuse to give Swiss vehicles to France. Gaijian has already given the Swiss hunter to Germany, it will probably not change in the future.
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Neither countries should receive Swiss vehicles and Switzerland should instead be an independent tree.
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This man gets it, If isreal can be a tree with 90% the same vehicles why cant we :D
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Switzerland would have both a more interesting air tree and an arguably better ground tree than Israel.
It absolutely does not deserve to be cucked by being added in nations that can stand on their own.
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question is what would be a worth 11.7 tank. As much as i love the 87 WE, i doubt its good enough to perform at 11.7
This was shown at an event ~2 months ago. “Leopard 2A7 CHE”
nah not realy, switzerland by far has not enough vehicles
Let’s come up with some new jokes.
well show us a possible whole tree , there is a reason it doesnt have a suggestion yet
Air :
Ground:
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funnily enough it is accepted as addition as a branch tree for germany lol
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i dont know how old that ground tree proposition is, but those tanks arent 11.0 or 12.0 worthy lol
Yes, we tried with my friend @ЧВК_Вагнер
The given battle ratings are of no concern.
What matters is that it shown the capacity for a fully fledged tree to be possible and healthy.
neither are arietes yet they are 11.7 and 11.3
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