Free SPAAs are too powerful

Yea…its a bit unfair that I had to grind it but others don’t have to and still use it. However, as ridiculous as it may seem, at least players will soon realize the importance of SPAA vehicles and may also encourage player to grind them or learn them. It’s nice to play tanks time to time and not be the only one dealing with CAS lol

it doesn’t specialize in killing campers it specializes in killing anyone on the ground and it can also spawn kill
i don’t wanna see these jesus arguments where cas players pretend to be saints while in reality killing 80% of the enemy team and the first place where they look to shoot at is the spawn

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That is one thing yes, why would you ever grind the SPAA tree now ? For Pantsir and iTo for example, it doesn’t matter that they are stock.

The other thing is we had all this changes to CAS, more spawn cost, spawning a second CAS plane most lakely not possible, potent new AA.
I consider myself a pretty decent CAS pilot and you really need skill with most planes now, it’s actually a lot easier to get kills on the ground, for a fracture of the spawn costs.

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They are not powerful, they are just annoying, not only because spawns are saturated with SPAAs, but it also sucks for ground players whose 3/4 of the team is nothing but SPAA. It just becomes a detriment, at least the ADATS and SA-15 are free TDs.

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Yep, it’s a bad change for everyone involved, both CAS and non-CAS. It’s just that a certain group of players sees it’s annoying for CAS, and thus supports it even though it’s directly harming them.

Let me take a look:

Etendard IVM - 9.0 plane, nothing suprising that it might suffer against + 1 B.R. vehicle.
Hunter F.58 - 10.0 plane with guided ammo that can take You out outside of LAV-AD effective range, not the plane fault someone didn’t use it well.
Mi-24V with 8x shturm that can again, take You out from 5 km with ease as flying really low protects You from LAV-AD.

The issue is that there are vehicles at that B.R. range that can take out eaisly this SPAAs.

More easy frags is hurting me in some way? Lmao

11.3 israel gets the 9.3 spaa btw

and the best spaa for intercepting, CS/SA5 doesnt even come with ahead rounds

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They got kurnass and kfir c7. One has sparrow, other has python 3, both have aim9d/g. Fine aa (plus kurnass has access to 6 agm65b)

Now another problem lol if your team is full of players who went 0-2, expect half the team activate feeding mode via spawning SPAAs so the enemy team could get nuke. It’s even worse when the mission is battle mode, one of our matches today we have had 10 more tickets than the enemy team, but somehow the remaining 5 minutes our team activate feeding mode by spawning SPAAs and hodl W to the objective point and draining all the tickets to the point where we are even, and eventually give one of the enemy a nuke and we lost lol

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Not spaa, just better alternatives for anti air role. Unless you are that bad and cant get enough sp even for aa loadout. Then yes, israel needs some option for 70sp so anyone, including 0/3 losers, could afford it

My point is spawning air vehicles is far too cheap to be practical, I can get in my fully loaded F-2 with like a kill and an assist, pretty early on in the match and this only gets worse with aircraft that have real ordinance on them.

I found a con with the free SPAA.
Almost nobody is spawning aircraft anymore, which makes me sad as a CAP main.

lmfao CAP? Those are well dead at the tier. They are spotted by spawn protection, cannot keep scanning spawn, have less reliable weapons, and have the same pressure from spaa as cas.

One would have a better chance with stingers than these missiles.

—separation line—

btw does anyone also find s24 to be inaccurate in battles but accurate in test flight?

i still 1 death leave tho. aint nobody wanting to use vehicles they aint collecting points for. plus, they are completely stock. maybe gaijin could throw us a bone and atleast give it a repair kit. if im shot at and i survive, my last thought is me wanting to wait for the free repair and travel at 3kmh to the nearest point. i might as well continue 1 death leaving.

Test flight/drive is really silly in general. Two particular examples is that TOWs center perfectly to your crosshairs, whilst in battles they just stay in a cone, and EEGS is perfectly accurate.

I disagree. with this statement for two reasons

  1. We are not limited by number of SPAA by any means. 2 expert SPAA + 4 noob free SPAA is still much more dangerous that 2 expert SPAA. If they can shoot, they are dangerous. If they distract you from expert SPAA, they are still dangerous.
  2. People over certain BR have exponentially more time in GRB, including all ground vehicle times. When people prepare a lineup, they definitely go for the best tanks there and SPAA is an afterthought in lineup. But they still know how to use SPAA but didn’t grind it out of pragmatism. Now they have free access to current battle BR SPAA and they will have one more fighting chance against the damn CAS who shot KH38 from 30 km away.

Note: I think it is plain wrong to say, “they are easiest to avoid now since its a bunch of newer players”. Danger of SPAA is sum of all individual ones, not average of all SPAA in the enemy team.

Just jump into the Russian Terminator. Everyone else is.

Multi-vehicle SPAA systems are far easier to eliminate than tanks.
With the introduction of anti-radiation missiles, all those free air-defense systems will become significantly more vulnerable targets.
Because the SPICE-250 has a drop speed cap, I only load four on one slot and only use them after all SPAAs are down. Flying the EF under Mach 1 is really hard.