Free SPAAs are too powerful

As I have said (again):

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Overall stats don’t leave out anything for discussion as they are recorded in game and everyone can see them.

Overall stats literally leave out 50% of the information. They do not work for SPAA balance, especially when the SPAA is mainly used for AT.

They don’t leave out any information as they gather all of them, You have that in the name of it “overall”.

So You are saying is that people are actually looking for tank vs tank combat rather than fighting the air?

Yes. Have you not seen the LAV-ADs rush flank routes at beginning of matches?

Again, overall doesn’t not apply to specific.

So even with this “OP” SPAA, situation doesn’t change because people want more to play against tanks than against air, meaning that no matter what, problem will still remain?

It sounds like again that only TO is the solution.

As long as game doesn’t allow You to distinguish between deaths to ground/air, the most accurate form of data are overall ones.

Well, one thing that’s for sure is that SPAA needs no buff at any br.

Sorry, but TO just appeals to a completely different group of players than that which Gajin is targeting.

Statcards are not accurate. Post game summaries, battle logs, and replays are.

But if most people use SPAA as TD it only means that most people want tank vs tank combat ;)

Statcards have all stats regarding kills and deaths

No it just means the LAV-AD has mobility, HVAP, and a hyrda launcher.

They lack necessary information for SPAA balance discussion.

If it were good at killing tanks I would agree with You but again overall stats prove otherwise.

SPAAs can only be used in combined mode so overall stats such as kills/deaths to all vehicles are relevant when it comes to SPAA balance discussion.

I killed somebody cross map spawn to spawn then got shot twice and died and was able to spawn a fully loaded Z-19 in and just murder the match basically unopposed all within the first five minutes lol.

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CAS when they’re being spawncamped instead of spawncamping:

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the CAS sp changes didn’t affect helis, as far as I remember from the changelog, helis are still reasonably priced

I didn’t say it’s good at tank killing, I just said that’s how ppl use it.

They are not relevant to SPAA balance versus planes.

What is not relevant is a couple of games.

What is relevant is what SPAA faces.

The four games adequately represented the LAV-AD’s enemies.

They really didn’t

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Etendard, Su-22, Hunter F.58, and Mi-24 pretty well represents the 10.0 area.

Really depends who’s behind the wheel majority of the time. It got to a point where I was getting overwhelmed by multiple CAS units targeting me and didn’t realize another SPICE 250 was on my way. There are those that sit in spawn doing nothing and there are those that do play the SPAA.
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Yea, but my point was it’s ridiculous how much SPAA is driving around now.
Especially if you just get top tier AA without researching the tree.

Yes This.

9.x SPAA faces F58/ a4e/ buffed a10al in the worst case. At the same time everyone else, mostly with dumb weapons, from 8.x-10.x.

No one’s speaking for f58 etc. The other planes need help.

Not only about dumb weapon carrier here, also some poor planes under compression.

And not only planes, e.g. BUK needs help to at least compete with tung lol