The worst bit about the Aardvark is it makes no sense. An Aardvark is a distinctly American aircraft (and had been to that point) - if they wanted Britain to get a Vark, it could’ve been an F-111K, which is out and out British as opposed to semi British. It’s not as if that was out of the question, it blatantly existed. It didn’t make it to full scale production but it was there
(Which annoys me as is, as it’s subjectively Britain’s best 10.3)
I mean… I don’t get why they wouldn’t add both. The turrets are slightly different (because well, they had different guns) but one of said guns already exists in game (RARDEN my beloved) and the other literally is a short barreled 76 (watch them screw the HESH up on that. Speaking of which, something is wrong in the world if I can get 3 “penetrations” on an IS-2 and not kill it with 183mm HESH.)
At this point we’d need to drive like everything non Russian through their front door to prove it exist to them.
Even the prototype stuff the existed but was destroyed for security reasons.
So we’d need to rebuild the entire plane/tank or get a time machine.
So that waves goodbye to any Vickers Mark 4 possibilities then. God sake.
Aardvark actually made sense for Brit Tree. Australia used it as our mainstay forever (much longer after the USA + one of the 2 that operated them) and ours was a heavy custom. I understand why they didn’t add Abrams to Brit tree. But they were better off just calling it the Export Version and not tacking Australia onto it. YES Australia requested modifications to the base hull and yes they were added. The USA then used what mods we added to their versions. Almost what they did for the Pig, but still slightly different.
And I agree. Customs should be added before mainstays. Which is probably why Commonwealth Countries are pissed our Uniques are not in the game.
However. We will still have this issue of the Uniques being OP due to Brits cannot have good things. XD
They did also say that a part of the reason we got it, was because Britain was in process of buying the F-111 as well. The F-111K Merlin and canceled the order (2 partially built airframes). So its not close enough for Gaijin to add the F-111K. But the F-111C was an alternative to that “british” aircraft
It is kinda annoying playing Sim and you play Russia but everyone except the USA have Soviet tanks…
I always imagine angles are at play, especially when fighting someone who isn’t brain dead, nor do most WT engagements happen at 1Km, it’s usually between 30-500 meters
And then they up tiered it unnecessarily and ruined it
Along with many ww2 US vehicles
Fox is just too small, too mobile and has too much pen on its rather fast firing autocannon.
Things like BTR or others are not really comparable. BTR is just huge, pretty easy to spot and to hit. Also lacks the pen necessary to do these kind of annoying ambush kills. Similar for Wiesel, XM’s etc.
Also M18 is less annoying: Even if very, very mobile…the single shot gun can’t be abused to get these kind of multikills you get in a Fox.
I’ve got a match where Fox used its super warpspeed to get behind the enemy team on Sweden and almost killed the whole team single handetly. No one could track this thing nor was he expecting it to pop up from behind just a minute after match start. Its just boom boom boom…fu this high pen rapid firing gun vs. WW2 tanks. There is no vehicle which might pull off similar stunts.
i mean the pershing at 6.7, jumbo at atrocious BR of 5.7, and m18 at 6.0
i dont have a massive issue with the fox but i think its roughly at f14 iriaf level and even thouhg it is fun to use it is bound to have something done to balance it
This has to be bait, right?
RARDEN underperforms at longer ranges because it has realistic drop-off modelled. Other autocannons are basically laser beams.
It’s very slow compared to nearly every other autocannon.
It doesn’t have very much pen at all.
You are delusional if you want it any higher than 8.3, since there are better tanks at that BR.
M139 - 1050 rpm
M242 - 201 rpm
Rh202 - 800 rpm
2A72 - 330 rpm
2A42 - 550 rpm
KBA B02 - 560 rpm
KAD - 996 rpm
GIAT M693 - 750 rpm
L21A1 RARDEN - 80 rpm
80 rpm is fast now.
Trust me, it’s annoying for everyone - cause if you know one exists you have to spend a couple of seconds IDing it when you couldv’e shot, hit and killed it otherwise.
Well then you need to state that in your examples. off the top of my head the Pen of the RARDEN is lower than the 2A72’s APDS, but that’s because (as Rulan said) the dropoff on the pen is hugely different. How Gaijin got pen on a round to drop off that quickly using a formula I don’t know…
As was stated earlier, by means of comparing, at anything between point blank and 1000m you stand a reasonable chance of sidepenning an M48A1, both the BTR and Fox can pen. The BTR actually has more pen from around 800m as previously stated.
I genuinely don’t understand what you want us to do. That’s on the level of “I think the Tiger II has too much armour, I’m going to reduce it” when you have absolutely no data to back it up. It’s historically correct, and mobility isn’t one of the stats that Gaijin uses for soft balancing.
(Relatively speaking, as also mentioned earlier, and as Rulan stated below, RARDEN is actually probably underperforming. The only reason it isn’t better is because of the magical formula they use, which… somehow gets a round with 110mm of pen at point blank to do about 70mm in 1000m… whereas there are other tanks, namely thr BTR, which have comparatively little dropoff in performance, starting at 82mm going down to also just around 70mm at 1000m. The difference in pen at point blank can be attributed to the RARDEN firing APDS at velocities 200 m/s than a 2A72 APDS shot, but that doesn’t explain the dropoff from the RARDEN.)
Also, “fast firing”
God help you when you find out about the M61 Vulcan.
Also, it’s quite possible the RARDEN is underperforming. There has been some suggestion that the ROF might be 90, but there’s not enough concrete evidence to support it, hence why it isn’t in game. Not that I’m arguing for an ahistorical buff/nerf (we’re not about that around here) but there’s an amount of video footage that (on balance probably isn’t edited) that also shows a higher rate of fire than 80RPM.
M22 should definitely go to UK
So let’s summarise, the Fox has to get a nerf because players were badly damaged and had to watch their tank being destroyed. The solution: the sufferers play UK themselves until they can no longer see the Fox.
I mean, if we think autocannon light tanks are annoying, yeah let’s nerf them! Right then, so the BTR gets nerfed Pen too, the XM800 could lose even more pen so all it can do is track people, the Wiesel should be limited to HEI only since its actually an Anti Air, the USH…
I wholeheartedly agree.