Then why not start with your side of the forum? Every time I translate sth it has “the whites” or sth like that in it. I mean have some common decency?
Well you did say that we cheat, but so do some of y’all as well. Claiming that we have a “cheating culture” either here or on Reddit really doesn’t help your case. Cheating anywhere should be treated as isolated incidents, and racial profiling should be denounced.
I mean I usually don’t start a racially incited argument per se…
Yes. You are taught that.
also plenty ultra racist chinese names once you translate them lol
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it’s more like entering a wrong place in a wrong time, when a place full of anger troll.
but same for the another side, Chinese people also feel same thing for western people’s behavior you may fell normal.
it’s the culture difference, and lead to attack to each other.
and also, when situations like this, always more trolls, welcome to just a tiny slice of the world’s biggest and freest internet (also most impolite sometime) society. you may see similar things in Reddit and Discord.
you can even say this is the new era of internet when it’s accessible to everyone, polite is something from the old “forum age”.
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can’t agree more with you. Plenty of non chinese people who cheat or bot in war thunder (AVR comes to mind very quickly).
Nevertheless there are many articles and videos talking about the “cheating culture” in China. Now whenever you see somebody with chinese Characters in their names that is clearly cheating or botting, one is very quick with words.
Please quote the text you are referring to
… which make us highly reactive towards this kind of comments. But that doesn’t make using racial insults, stereotypical profiling justified on either side.
And please bear in mind that we Mainlanders usually don’t insult head of states or gov’ts proactively, and we nowadays treat memes like “Bing Chilling” and “Xuehua Piaopiao” as a milder equivalent of “Ching Chang Chong.” So I implore y’all not to do that in front of Chinese ppl, lest you expect them to call y’all slurs.
Exactly. This entire thing just exacerbated the problem with neither side willing or able to step back. Not a pure WT problem.
Small but its the part that cries the loudest and makes changes (equally good and bad)
Was referring to a string of quarrels in the Chinese-specific forum, where a dude came to a bulletin board about J-10C with a “xuehua piaopiao” gif with bad faith, citing another quote about HQ-11 (which we call HQ-5.5 due to it being not able to multi-vehicle). So naturally a quarrel was started. And I admit I sounded the call to arms in response to that gif.
The dude started to post Winnie the Pooh posing with Jeff E., causing further outcry.
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Seriously, I’m fed up with the people calling “go back to Chinese server,” “Ching Chang Chong,” “bing chilling,” “Tian’anmen Square,” etc., whenever I start some Chinese texts intended only for the ppl with Chinese IDs, since most of them speak Chinese, naturally. And I’m fed up with ppl saying “cheater” whenever they were killed by some Chinese IDs. This may also apply to Japanese and Korean IDs. Plus the n-bomb text chain in matches, ppl talking pro-Nazi nonsenses… all getting me pissed and angry.
actually very few, at least 95% are NSFW jokes and insulting to gaijin.
some few racist id are more like Reddit racist jokes, in Chinese internet environment, it’s more like just jokes based “no one get hurt from this”. Some Reddit things are quite popular in Chinese internet.
I actually mean a small glimpse of the whole.
in many part of Chinese internet, endless wars are going on.
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Tip of an iceberg, eh?
And @mineLo yes many of our forums are poorly moderated, if you catch a glimpse on Tieba you’ll know. And the insult pointed towards the devs there are deeply based on the blunders they pulled off on the Chinese vehicles, such as bad modeling, bad FM, this HQ-11 scandal, etc etc.
And despite the wall I’ve seen shit like anti-marxists in Chinese internet as well.
But seriously NSFW innuendos should be curbed.
All of those things are already heavily against the rules. Report such things whenever you see them on any of Gaijins platforms and they will be dealt with. I do not recommend answering them as that accomplishes nothing but just a further risk of more rules broken by other users/players.
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Got it. I’ll be careful henceforth.
And yes already reported an incident in the Chinese-specific forum.
Buuuuuuuut, I’m aware that you mods and incident management are kinda overwhelmed with the incident reports, so the in-game reports feels kinda broken. The only one incident that I got a proper feedback was someone chanting some neonazi stuff, and most of my reports on incidents involving sinophobic speech went to a deaf ear.
different mods.
tech mods are another parts. and bug report is even another system.
forum mod are most volunteers from forum users, they just dealing forum things.
Im talking precisely about the game and forum mods, not the tech ones.
Any claims of racism or any forms of abuse is taking seriously and of course we can’t do nothing if not made aware of it! You can do this Via DM’ing us or by using the flag system.
Check, Wilco.
Interrogative: I hope that the feedback system were a bit more efficient.
I shouldn’t digress myself too much.
Interesting point, but understand that some improvements can only be added if the right people arrive. And of course, if there is a specific side called Russia.
Regarding the BA-11, I think it can stay the way it is, even if it means removing something that has already been proven to be present in its papers.
It would be no different from NATO vehicles that had some features removed to keep the game more “acceptable” against them.
I understand that you Chinese are in the majority in the most popular games in the world today, but if there is a massive amount of reports from a specific community about a specific nation, don’t you think that corrections or additions to improvements and weapon capabilities would be focused exclusively on your nation?
Practically other nations would be forgotten indefinitely, just because the corrections team decided to meet the demands of a large community of your game.
Imagine the uproar that would cause within the forum? It wouldn’t be interesting, the problem is that the Asian servers were closed due to a lack of players… Why?
Practically a veiled threat to the game developers, why?
I understand the frustration of waiting ages for something to be resolved and it not happening, but remember that corrections to jets, ships, and NATO MBTs were made years ago, some even before other Chinese reports. And they didn’t even respond, or if they did, they dismissed the evidence as inconsistent and simply chose to deny it.
When you mentioned “equal treatment” and literally put it in QUOTES, it not only sounded like (LISTEN TO THE CHINESE COMMUNITY OR WE WILL ABANDON THIS GAME SINCE WE ARE A BIG PART OF IT), but it would also be grounds for a post to be removed.
But why haven’t you done this yet? Again, I return to the issue of servers and number of players. The Asian servers were CLOSED DUE TO LACK OF PLAYERS. It doesn’t seem to me that you constitute a large part of the War Thunder community.
What it seems to me is that you HAVE ENOUGH BOTS created for farming and selling accounts, which is proven by the ban reports made available by the company.
Seriously, where are you going with this topic? Do you want preference without having a solid base of REAL players on the servers?
I can’t see your concern for a better game in any other light than a concern for one nation to be better than others in all aspects and in all types of situations, making it unfeasible to try to go head-to-head with any vehicle.
MY CONCLUSION IS:
Sit back and wait, NATO allied players have been waiting years and years for improvements to their vehicles to be implemented. And all we get are more NERFS and DEGRADATIONS of the most reliable and best-selling vehicles on the planet Earth. There is no greater humiliation than seeing the backbone of the world’s greatest nations have their vehicles destroyed just to balance a game that tends toward Russia/Chinese bias.
And you’re threatening the company to “get out” with your entire BOT community? HA HA HA HA HA don’t make me laugh, take them and go! It would be funny if server problems caused by bots and unstable events started to disappear after that happened.
Good luck, do as we do and sit in a chair and wait your turn.
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