Then complain about the placement of ground targets, or simply avoid the furball and go for bases or wait for a moment to strike.
And the A-4 was probably the worse argument you could have made, that thing is an exceptional fighter- fast, extremely well-armed, with good manueverability especially roll rate and strong flaps, and of course AIM-9s and flares.
Also, as some have pointed out already: WTF is that Q-5L ground BR??? It’s supposed to have flares and AAMs IRL but the devs still won’t give them to it and now the move to 10.7???
Dude, devs, pass to me whatever ur smoking man, JESUS
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All Tornado IDSs should drop from 11.3 to 11.0 for air realistic and air simulator.
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@Smin1080p I want to know why one of the most used premiums (Su-25K) didnt get any adjustments at all… this isnt a 10.0 aircraft for GRB its 11.0 all day an the Su-25BM and Su-39 are even more potent. lmfao what a shocker they ignore the 3 best ground attackers at there respective BRs from this list
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Not really, 11.7 uptiers are extremely rare for 10.7, like once every 20 matches rare.
@MommyDommyEnjyr
Cause the Su-25K shouldn’t be brought down in BR for ground battles.
Oh, you’re a Russia lover.
Su-25K is a 10.0 aircraft for ground battles.
Gaijin ignored zero ground attackers that are over-performing.
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as a ground main this is a really great change, hopefully we see it for other aircraft from 1.0 to 12.7
still have the Lynxes aswell, but Heli CAS just doesnt hit as well as fixed wing CAS
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I’ll believe that when I see it given M735 is still not fixed.
Best idea here imo, just not the Pantsir, it still invalidates all other SPAAG.
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Su25K should be seeing a BR increase in GRB yet its staying at 10.0. if you think this is 10.0 material then you are off your rockers
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Theyre not changing maps anytime soon. That much is clear. And saying “avoid the main part of the map” is a lazy reply. And if you know what youre doing with a mig 15 bis or a saber then the A4 isnt going to stand a chance. The Aim9Bs it gets wont kill anything thats paying attention. Go play the A4 for a bit and get back to me. Its in a pretty bad spot.
GBU moment
The fact you think F-111, Su-25K, F-4C, Mirage 5F, etc are all 11.0 capable is astonishingly bad take.
Britain has their own Su-25K at 9.3: Buccaneer S2, you don’t see me complaining about it.
The Su-25 isn’t anywhere as good as you claim it is.
Su-25 is well within SPAA range for its <2km range dumb fire ordnance.
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now have some ground Decompression and most nations can keep their CAS (no way am i uptiering my 10.,3s to 10.7 just for the jag and bucc, though the FGs would be very nice)
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The fact you ignore the Su-25K has a very similar GRB loadout to the Su-25BM minus the Kh 29TEs and S-25Ls and R73s the only person here with the bad take is you…
shocker one is 10.0 and the other is 11.0…
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The A-4 br change for ground rb is a bit excessive. Maybe bump it down a step for each one. The Ayit can’t compete at 10.9, and there isn’t a single 10.0 tank ingame for Israel. Furthermore, the previous A-4 variants really shouldn’t be at 9.7, they belong at 9.3 at the maximum…
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Ahahaha. Players asked for easier gameplay of strikers in arb, but gaijin just killed cas by only one feature.
It seems like an excellent idea to further disrupt the lineups and shuffle the cards, creating frustration. Also, certain parameters can be borderline acceptable depending on the weapon configurations, at the expense of playability. Can you explain how a player who has just unlocked a Jaguar or an AMX can be competitive at 10.7 or 11 with rockets or bombs? And then at 10.7 and 11, the anti-aircraft (AA) systems wipe you out like it’s nothing. If the goal was to create even more discontent and instead satisfy the usual inept complainers, you’ve succeeded….
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What? Su-25K has 8x dumb fire rockets, that’s it.
Oh look, the Su-25K loadout on a British jet.
Except I have 10 kills instead of 8.
Su-25K is a standard dumb fire CAS with competition in most tech trees.
Because it was those aircraft that were over performing, not SPAA underperforming. You had aircraft with exceptional ground attack ordinance at BRs where SPAA can’t counter them. Sure, if SPAA goes down, that fixes that issue. But then any fighters or attackers with less capable ordinance are completely outmatched. Better to uptier the op vehicles than downtiers other ones which will eventually lead to only compression.
For example, the A-4s. They’ve got insane CAS capabilities. Now if you downtier SPAA there’s already a problem of those SPAA (Gepard, Marksman, etc) being too good against tanks. But ignoring that, then you’ve gotta deal with all the other 8.0-8.7 getting shafted because of a few OP vehicles. The IL-28Sh for example.
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Argentine players (including me) when the Super Etendard and Alpha Jets got BR nerf:
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