Why F-4EJ and EJkai not change BR ?
they can’t use ATGM
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Aircraft that need to go down in air but have been untouched in the brithsh tree.
Buccaneer S1
Buccaneer S2
Jaguar Gr1A
Tornado Gr1
Most of the heavy bombers as well need a review, especially Lancasters
There is no reason for these aircraft to be at their current BRs for ARB
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In agreement with some others here, this does seem unnecesarily punitive to Britain for some reason. Britain has no real lineup betweeen 10.3 and 11.3/11.7 (literally no vehicles between 10.3 and 11.3), so bumping the Jag GR1 and Bucc S2B up to 10.7 really hurts them, and the 10.3 ground lineup. These jets will be thoroughly outperformed up at 11.3. I’m fairly sure the expectation from the players here was that these aircraft (amongst others) would be going down in ARB, rather than up in GRB, as the LGB advantage doesn’t matter there.
This change makes these aircraft thoroughly underwhelming in both modes.
These changes also create an odd situation with the Tornados. With the advantage of having LGBs being made irrelevant in ARB, the 11.3 striker tornados should all go down to 11.0 with the two that are lower br only because they don’t have LGBs. As it stands, due to the weaker engines, the Tornado GR1 will be flat out the weakest of the Tornados in ARB, whilst being at a higher br than the two German IDS ones.
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Japenese jets have no guided munitions so both JP phantoms should go down in GRB about 1.0br
EJ and EJ Kai have exact same anti-ground loadout, they should have about the same GRB BR
T-2 have no flares, no CCIP to know where to drop stuff, should go lower then jets that have both flares and guided munitions → 9.0-9.3 at least in GRB
F-1 have CCIP but no flares and no lineup, should be at 9.7 GRB
F-104J have no CCIP and basically no anti-ground weaponry, no flares, I believe it would make sense for it to go somewhere 9.X as anti-CAS
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Yeah, the A10 spawn does look brutal. I’d just runway spawn. I’ve taken out way too many A10s with the Stormer the moment they spawn in and there really isn’t any defence
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All late Harriers to 12.0? Sure but the AV-8B still has no SAPHE Mavericks unlike the british one, big difference.
I suggest AGM 65F for AV-8B and A-7E plex
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MiG-29G should go to 12.0 for ground RB, same performance as the MiG-29A
since all mig-21mf or his brother going down to 10.3…
J7D, a premium package, using a mig21mf`s airfame, has 4 rear-aspect IRmsl, share a same br with HMD+aim7f phantom
good jerb, gaijin, its really “balanced”, some tech tree must pay-to-lose
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So…why is it that the BR of British and German F-4s goes down, but not the BR of Japanese EJ and EJ Kai, which don’t have guided bombs?
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i think thats a skill issue----a10 can comfortably shoot agm65 to those AAs, not get into their range, while su25 have to get very near to the AAs, trying to find enemies with their bare eyes, so that they can get 1 or 2 kills. btw s25 is not good as before.
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I must be playing the wrong American line ups. Didnt realize how dominant we were with the A-4s and A-10s. Well our win rates are going to get even more terrible.
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Why didn’t the Su-25SM3 descend the br in air realistic?.
Is a Su-25 with two r73 at 11.7, while we have things like the JA37D with 6 aim-9L being ridiculously better than the Su-25 in flight performance at 11.3.
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really gaijin? Q5L in 10.7 without any flare and aa missle? kidding me?
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It’s not about skill issue, it’s about A-10 loosing all controls after a single shot, it’s very inconvenient.
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Generally good changes. A solid rebalancing of CAS, though some aircraft are missing.
Genuinely disappointed in people saying that various attack aircraft needs to go down in BR in ARB, they seem to miss the point of these vehicles - they’re strike aircraft and shouldn’t be as good as fighters as proper fighter aircraft of the same BR. That’s just ridiculous, and asking for aircraft such as the Jaguar or AMX to go down to where they are fighters with OP missiles often against flareless opponents is a terrible idea. You wouldn’t complain that the IL-2 needs to go down until it can out dogfight its opponents, because strike aircraft shouldn’t be able to do that. If you want to use a fighter then use a fighter, don’t try to downtier CAS aircraft until they’re missile busses that simply ruin the entire ARB experience.
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AntiCas win) It’s literally a murder of 9.7 - 11.7 attack aircrafts.
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The Su-25s zoom in at tree-top level flaring like crazy while shooting giant rockets that send you to the shadow realm if they happen to land within 10m of you.
If you do manage to hit one with AA missile such as Stinger it will most likely continue flying like nothing happened
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are you kidding me? Q5L only two GB250 and A7E can shot 6 * 65b .DO developers think that subsonic attack fighter such as su25sm3 and su39 are very suitable for their FIGHT RB’s rank.MEANINGLESS UPADATE
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I don’t see why GR.7 br need to be higher then F-16s, F-16s is way lot better in everything than GR.7
Also, Jaguar only has 2 laser-guided bombs and no ATGM while SU-25s can carry 6 ATGMs, all aspects missiles, and stay at 10.0
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ofc you leave out the blatantly OP Su25s, forget the Su-25SM3 but yeah lets just ignore the other Rank 7 Su-25s entirely…
I’ve no clue why the F16s are going down in BR for GRB…
F16A gets 4 TV guided GBU-8s… right ok I want an explanation as to why thats going down in BR lmfao
F16A MLU for china is going down… yes it only gets Mavericks which are not great but there current BRs are fine. the only F16s that needed to be lowered were the A/A focused ones like the ADF for Italy and USA
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Harrier GR7 with 4 mavericks is now higher BR than an F16 with 6 mavericks… what copium is this bs
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