the br change is all about CAS performance
so you think 2 gbus carrier should at 10.7 where it can even face pantsir and F16s?
brilliant, you should get hired by gaijin
yea but the a10a doesn’t get a targeting pod so you can’t really see anything past 5km maximum anyway
that doesn’t make it better for the ground vehicles though, which i assume was the main point.
Edit: this entire update is completely backwards in places as well.
i cannot see how increasing BR in ground for a plane that has a hard time in Air instead of lowering it in Air.
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hopefully we eventually get them as that would them much more reliable than the gbu12
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Correct, it’s a similar ~6km range as the Su-25BM.
Su-25K’s effective range is significantly lower in comparison.
@Necronomica
Oh yeah, my main point was that all the 9.3 - 10.3s I mentioned and the Su-25 are all equal enough to each other that the Su-25 should stay where it is.
The fact there are 10.7s and now more powerful 10.3s with this table, means I think they’re fine.
If some SPAA needs to be moved down, that should happen instead IMO.
tell me, is it easier to dodge a SAM or Cannon SPAA in a manoeverable Supersonic that can fly in space or a fat bus at low altitude, the survivability of the Q-5L is better, it does well at not getting hit
sure, based only on the BR ranges after changes and comparing only to other planes.
the issue is them lowering the ground BR instead of increasing the air BR (or other way around). People already make 10-15 topics A DAY complaining that CAS is to powerful and this is just making that issue worse. ground vehicles now have EVEN MORE CAS to worry about than ever before.
they did it backwards.
Gutted because I was hoping this was in the last patches, and am still really keen to see what you pull out of that bag of tricks.
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You clearly know very little about the Su-25 or Russia in general. And great job exposing yourself as anti-Russia
Ya no. Su 25 is much better and will remain more common.
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He’s talking about ground RB 🗿
oh nice I’ve been anticipating this change for a while now :)
Finally we can put the subsonic all aspect slingers at a higher BR in Air RB without harming their performance in Ground RB which would allow us to increase the BRs of the 9.3 flareless supersonics and still keep them relevant without them clubbing everything in a downtier.
… that’s what we’re doing right? Right???
I honestly though we were lowering air RB brs. For example I thought the tornado wtd61 would go to 10.3 in air instead of 10.3 in ground.
none of which are absolutely terrible bar a very select few vehicles
Indeed i havent
MiG-19 with some modifications, manoeverable, but not responsive
Good luck flaring a MANPAD anyway
you cna fly above their effective/maximum engagement range and bomb
My opinion is Neutral on China, they have some good vehicles and bad vehicles, i never have a major problem with any apart from the A-5C with Magics at 10.0 ARB
never said using gusn onteh Q-5s, only on teh Su-25s which due to it being slow and lacking extra long range capability CAS can and does get close enough to ground units to use it effectively
I never said that the Q-5L was totally superior to the A-6E jus tthat it has some advantages, i do get very annoyed with an A-6 sittng in space out of range of SPAA (Q-5 can also do this) with 9 GBUs
I do not even play american CAS, I have only ground out the US air tree to max BR, and the US ground tree to touch rank 3 (1 vehcile)
I Main Britain, I have hte same problems with American vehicles you do, i think the F-5C and 5E shoudl goup in air RB BR, and that the A-6E is still a very strong CAS platform
Last time i played the US was when i was grinding out the F-15, a good few months ago now, i barely play the US
lol Tornado’s faster with superior ordnance, easily better than Su-25.
Oh, yeah no the Tornado IDS was made 11.0 from 10.7 purely because of air RB.
Why the heck is the Buccaneer S2B going to 10.7 for ground battles?
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I was also hoping that some ground attackers such as the Buccaneer and the Tornados would get more favorable BRs but I don’t believe we should have ANY jets with all aspect missiles lower than maybe 10.7.
Just imagine fighting a Tornado with Aim-9Ls while playing the G.91YS, J32B, F-100, Sagittario, F3H or Shenyang F5… the list goes on and I don’t think these vehicles should get downtiered.
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You obviously don’t play A4s on ARB, fact. The A4 face 104s 4 of every 5 games, plus hunters, sabres, Migs 15, 17s, 19s and some 21s, Lightnings and Harriers.
The only advantage A4s have are the gunpods and the head on attack players. Sorry for my english. o7
3x 1000 pound GBUs and a targeting pod likely.
Whatever Gaijin is smoking I’d like a piece of it, the fact the Q-5L and A-4Es are getting absolutely railed baffles me. The A-4E was stupid at 8.7 sure but they don’t deserve any place NEAR 9.7 and especially 10.0 for the Ayit.
And don’t get me started with the Q-5L, something with 2 LGBs and zero air to air missiles or countermeasures to speak of, move it back down to 9.7 or keep it at 10.0 please for goodness sake.
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