They have CCIP with bombs. It really is that simple.
CCIP with bombs/rockets = maybe a different BR.
No CCIP? No bombs/rockets? No difference in BR.
Seems straight forward enough.
@Necronomica
I like that post. I disagree with the ranges, cause in a battle you’re not getting a 7km shot in the Su-25, similar to how you won’t get a 50km shot in the Mirage 2000 using the PGMs.
Are more BR-Changes coming? This can’t be all? Perhaps I have overlooked that?
No, most of the player around that BR still suck with basic function of the game, spotting is not a part of their 2 brain cells.
Also, Spotted target still has an odd range that bounce around the actual target.
Yes, you can use point of interest to give the guidance but then, when that point is captured or even worse, corpse around that point.
Then you have to find another target, CAS is not alway focus on the captured point, i would like to kill AA, then tank that approaching the point then the point that being capturing.
Even that, with the power of 70% of a 250KG bomb, not every strike of Kh-29 hit the 3m kill radius since you can’t just point the laser pod of a point then click, that’s not a good way.
I can’t help but feel I’m being exceedingly stupid. I genuinely don’t get how a plane that is objectively a worse version of an airframe for ground strike is a higher BR in Ground RB.
does the laser guided ones have iog?
Why wouldn’t you be able to shoot those ranges? at BR 10.0 there are no AA with a range over 5km. you can easily shoot, track and have impact (perhaps not hit) before even getting within range of ANY of the AA at that BR. survivability outweighs the probability of hit, if you survive but miss you can land, reload and try again, all with VERY low risk if you don’t play stupidly and like a drone.
Edit: correction, France and Sweden have AA at that BR that have a small chance to hit.
I don’t known actually, I have to check
Love how they left the AJS untouched even tho its a sub tier 11.0 for cas, apparently 4 mavrick A and no countermeasures are worth 11.0 especially with aub par flight performance.
Man i didn’t know we were making jokes now.
just about all the planes going up do not at all deserve to go up, they should go down instead in air RB.
So, most nations have their core CAS moved up, often to BRs where they have no ground line up and thus force an up-tiered line up; meanwhile, the MIG-21s & Su-22s with all aspect AAMs move down in BR, where they can easily intercept the newly up-tiered NATO/ Chinese cas while also having some of the best cas for their BRs. Meanwhile, the SU-25(k) hasn’t moved, and neither has the Pantsir.
Very Balanced, 10/10 decision.
yep, if onlt the Lynxes had CCIP for rockets they would be a lot better for when i bring it out usually (when i have nothing else to spawn cause my stupid ass doesnt bring SPAA)
it has Inertial and gps guidance
Cause its air-to ground capability is 14 rockets without CCIP… that’s like 4.0 capability on a 10.3 interceptor.
Thus there’s no reason to even touch it cause F-1 and T-2 exist already.
@Necronomica
You bring up more valid concerns.
Your edit does mention SACLOS SPAA, which I use as well as see rather consistently.
I do get the annoyance with Su-25s, they’re plentiful, easier to get than the other options I mentioned previously.
However, next update Tornado IDS will be as common as Su-25, and just as lethal as it’s just as easy to get.
Q5L vs A6e vs A10aLate
no flare vs 60 flares vs tons of flares
no aams vs 2 aim9Ls vs 4 aim9Ls
2 gbus vs 9 gbus vs 6 mavs
And they are at the same BR
ye totally make sense, good job gaijin
A10a go up to 10.7 and Su25k stay at 10.0? lol?
A-10A Late has IR guided AGM-65s, and the Su-25 with TV guided rockets is 11.0.
also no aams while a6e and a10 have 2-4 all aspect 9Ls with much more bombs and mavs as well
Supersonic vs High subsonic VS Prop speed
very good climb, vs sub par climb vs poor climb
amasing MER vs Poor MER vs So little energy it doesnt matter much
I really hope the Q-5L is receiving AA missiles and countermeasures from these bug reports. That’s the only way to justify such a large increase in BR.
Countermeasures:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/gdFPDj80DZvt
Missiles:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/rCm4c6eIi6NM
I really just don’t get it do I…
I just don’t understand. Like I follow your logic but I just simply don’t get how you even get to that train of thought on Gaijin’s part.
