Following the Roadmap: Separate Battle Ratings for Different Modes + More Information

So britain would have 0 Aircraft for 10.3 GRB. Thanks and the sea harriers are over BRed already in ARB. They’d need Aim-9Ms for that BR

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i think that he means in air rb, still way to high for it tho

even if its a 10% chance of them tanking the missile, you still cannot ignore that chance which renders your entire point of “wait for the right time” utterly crap and you know it. because if hes rocking 2-6 laser guided munitions well bye bye goes some of your team because “you waited” for him to launch 2+ missiles off with unimpeded threats on the ground doing nothing but waiting.

I get waiting in SPAAs as they basically suck at ranges but manpads also cannot wait when they are too close because depending on you to his position, the missile might not even have enough pull so your window depends on factors too.

the FRS.1 is kinda sad where it is in RB, in SB its suprisngly good, the FRS.1e is a lot better in RB only due to the fact it whales on flarelesses

This would make it unplayable in ARB. Just remove air spawn

dunno about either. saddled with alright missiles but god awful Flight Performance isn’t a great combo…

Su-25 is known as a tank to those that still need to learn its weaknesses.
Its weaknesses are the cockpit area, engine area, and tail. @MommyDommyEnjyr
There you go, that should increase your lethality against Su-25s now.

SPAA out-ranges all aircraft mounted guns, this is common knowledge learned over 5 years ago…

It was made clear.
Also Mig-23 has rocket CAS options with CCIP @Firestarter @JoshX9706 They are multi-role aircraft being brought down. You even list the F-4J UK, which you can check its loadouts for yourself.


F-104J doesn’t effective air to ground weapons, nor CCIP.

@Necronomica

That is a laser designator. I have seen zero evidence of that being a camera.
Third person locking is the primary method you use, which is a <3km range. Laser also gets defeated by smoke, trees, and buildings far easier. There’s no vehicle tracking available either.
Unguided weapons were always better for the Su-25, which is why all good CAS players use them over the more expensive less effective guided weapons.

@DiamondCraftLP
6 tech trees have CAS identical or superior to Su-25 at and below 10.3. It should stay 10.0.
A-10 isn’t that good.

Yep, it’s because you don’t have to play in uptiers in SB, and can employ it to its strengths, 11.0 would be a death sentence for ARB without it’s missing Aim-9Ms

As an air RB enjoyer, I’m quite sad about those changes. All aspect slingers will remain a thing around 10.0… keeping the total mess players without flares are in.

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Kh-29L fly slower then most AA missiles and since you need the Delta-NG pod to guide S-25L/Kh-25ML/Kh-29L. You will need a very good eyes or spotted enemies to guide it because the pod only has 1.25x zoom value.

Some time you can guide it where the trace of the smoke from the AA but then, if it fire at you, most of the time you need to evade (which is dump the missile) or gotta bet that you fires first to kill that AA (a mind game).

Even the best CAS user of Su-25 like Hunter still prefer A-10 when dealing with AA since they got at least AGM-65, fire then evade, rather then make a bet with the approaching.

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Yeah this is a bad situation, people don’t even need to know a word of Chinese to see the problem.

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not difficult considering you just look for points of interest like a capture point being captured or some manpad launching at another jet etc… you make valid points but you also ignore easy factors that make such systems easy to use in the current state of the game…

yeah fine I get that.

But then why is it the same BR as the F-104J which in Ground RB

And why are the other F-104s a lower BR than the one with less A/G ordnance? IN a BR change about Ground RB, where Ground Ordnance and capability matters?

Please Alvis make it make sense

Oh yeah that. I still have to see stupid Su-25s with their all aspect missiles and A-10s with their stupid 9Ls in my flareless Hunter F.1 and practically flareless F.6.

Brilliant logic there Gaijin.

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Neither of which you can aim for with an IR SAM, and are extremely hard to aim for with cannons against a manoeving target,
plus these weakspots are by no means at all unique to the Su-25, its the same with every plane in the damn game

yes but you can just fire an S-25O and cake an SPAA, which will struggle not to be overpressured, an Su-25 can see the SPAA tracers and dodge, a plane is much more able to dodge rounds than a tank, you do not NEED to use the gun, it is a great back up however and can keep you alive by killing vehicles that pose a threat to you quickly,

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man have you ever used the laser guided missiles in ground rb because you have an idealistic scenario in your head, you get shoot and guided +2 missiles at different targets which needs to be guided individually with a 1x magnification before a manpad can even shot you and you will tank it, again the missiles are by all means inferior to the rockets in practice and most of the su 25 players also seems to agree

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i don’t actually know if it does or does not have a camera but it doesn’t have to have a camera to be a designator pod…

does not matter. you still CAN shoot well over 6km. my 8km shot was first try and hit at 5.5km.

does not matter, circumstantial.

does not matter. anecdotal.

you stated:

which isn’t true. like, at all. you stated an absolute that is false.
there is nuance in the in game usage yes, but that doesn’t matter for your original statement.

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all they need to do is let us have a 4x 9G loadout, the stockgrind for the FRS.1 is so painful, part of the reason i spaded it in SB and is my most played vehicle in SB

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Btw,I would see the Key point here for CAS is decreasing their BR at air battles not increasing them at ground battles, do u get this point, gaijin?

Since the AMX is being moved to 11.0, here some possible solutions for save the aircraft

Possible solutions

Riepilogo

AGM

Riepilogo


Irl the AMX A11A was able to carry various agm such as the AGM65 G/E and the AS30 Laser. Those missiles will give to the aircraft better change to remain competitive at 11.0

Improved Guided Bombs

Riepilogo

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Lizard and orpher are guided kits made by the israeli company Elbit. The lizard is a laser guided bomb with a better laser guidance, while the orper is a f&f IR guided bomb. The most important one will be orpher, as it will allow the amx to the time when it will be exposed to anty aircraft fire. It will also allow the AMX to carry up to 8 bombs. The AMX A11A used the Lizard I, III and IV and orpher (it was realized only in a single version)
Lizard


Orpher
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Other solutions
Leave the aircraft at 10.3 since now the main 10.3 lineup is lacking a good cas and if nothing will be done, the aircraft will suffer a lot at 11.0.

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