not difficult considering you just look for points of interest like a capture point being captured or some manpad launching at another jet etc… you make valid points but you also ignore easy factors that make such systems easy to use in the current state of the game…
yeah fine I get that.
But then why is it the same BR as the F-104J which in Ground RB
And why are the other F-104s a lower BR than the one with less A/G ordnance? IN a BR change about Ground RB, where Ground Ordnance and capability matters?
Please Alvis make it make sense
Oh yeah that. I still have to see stupid Su-25s with their all aspect missiles and A-10s with their stupid 9Ls in my flareless Hunter F.1 and practically flareless F.6.
Brilliant logic there Gaijin.
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Neither of which you can aim for with an IR SAM, and are extremely hard to aim for with cannons against a manoeving target,
plus these weakspots are by no means at all unique to the Su-25, its the same with every plane in the damn game
yes but you can just fire an S-25O and cake an SPAA, which will struggle not to be overpressured, an Su-25 can see the SPAA tracers and dodge, a plane is much more able to dodge rounds than a tank, you do not NEED to use the gun, it is a great back up however and can keep you alive by killing vehicles that pose a threat to you quickly,
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man have you ever used the laser guided missiles in ground rb because you have an idealistic scenario in your head, you get shoot and guided +2 missiles at different targets which needs to be guided individually with a 1x magnification before a manpad can even shot you and you will tank it, again the missiles are by all means inferior to the rockets in practice and most of the su 25 players also seems to agree
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i don’t actually know if it does or does not have a camera but it doesn’t have to have a camera to be a designator pod…
does not matter. you still CAN shoot well over 6km. my 8km shot was first try and hit at 5.5km.
does not matter, circumstantial.
does not matter. anecdotal.
you stated:
which isn’t true. like, at all. you stated an absolute that is false.
there is nuance in the in game usage yes, but that doesn’t matter for your original statement.
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all they need to do is let us have a 4x 9G loadout, the stockgrind for the FRS.1 is so painful, part of the reason i spaded it in SB and is my most played vehicle in SB
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Btw,I would see the Key point here for CAS is decreasing their BR at air battles not increasing them at ground battles, do u get this point, gaijin?
Since the AMX is being moved to 11.0, here some possible solutions to save the aircraft
Possible solutions
Riepilogo
AGM
Riepilogo
Irl the AMX A11A was able to carry various agm such as the AGM65 G/E and the AS30 Laser. Those missiles will give to the aircraft better change to remain competitive at 11.0
Improved Guided Bombs
Riepilogo
Lizard and orpher are guided kits made by the israeli company Elbit. The lizard is a laser guided bomb with a better laser guidance, while the orper is a f&f IR guided bomb. The most important one will be orpher, as it will allow the amx to the time when it will be exposed to anty aircraft fire. It will also allow the AMX to carry up to 8 bombs. The AMX A11A used the Lizard I, III and IV and orpher (it was realized only in a single version)
Lizard
Orpher
Other solutions
Leave the aircraft at 10.3 since now the main 10.3 lineup is laking a good cas and if nothing will be done, the aircraft will suffer a lot at 11.0.
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They have CCIP with bombs. It really is that simple.
CCIP with bombs/rockets = maybe a different BR.
No CCIP? No bombs/rockets? No difference in BR.
Seems straight forward enough.
@Necronomica
I like that post. I disagree with the ranges, cause in a battle you’re not getting a 7km shot in the Su-25, similar to how you won’t get a 50km shot in the Mirage 2000 using the PGMs.
Are more BR-Changes coming? This can’t be all? Perhaps I have overlooked that?
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No, most of the player around that BR still suck with basic function of the game, spotting is not a part of their 2 brain cells.
Also, Spotted target still has an odd range that bounce around the actual target.
Yes, you can use point of interest to give the guidance but then, when that point is captured or even worse, corpse around that point.
Then you have to find another target, CAS is not alway focus on the captured point, i would like to kill AA, then tank that approaching the point then the point that being capturing.
Even that, with the power of 70% of a 250KG bomb, not every strike of Kh-29 hit the 3m kill radius since you can’t just point the laser pod of a point then click, that’s not a good way.
I can’t help but feel I’m being exceedingly stupid. I genuinely don’t get how a plane that is objectively a worse version of an airframe for ground strike is a higher BR in Ground RB.
does the laser guided ones have iog?
Why wouldn’t you be able to shoot those ranges? at BR 10.0 there are no AA with a range over 5km. you can easily shoot, track and have impact (perhaps not hit) before even getting within range of ANY of the AA at that BR. survivability outweighs the probability of hit, if you survive but miss you can land, reload and try again, all with VERY low risk if you don’t play stupidly and like a drone.
Edit: correction, France and Sweden have AA at that BR that have a small chance to hit.
I don’t known actually, I have to check
Love how they left the AJS untouched even tho its a sub tier 11.0 for cas, apparently 4 mavrick A and no countermeasures are worth 11.0 especially with aub par flight performance.
Man i didn’t know we were making jokes now.
just about all the planes going up do not at all deserve to go up, they should go down instead in air RB.
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So, most nations have their core CAS moved up, often to BRs where they have no ground line up and thus force an up-tiered line up; meanwhile, the MIG-21s & Su-22s with all aspect AAMs move down in BR, where they can easily intercept the newly up-tiered NATO/ Chinese cas while also having some of the best cas for their BRs. Meanwhile, the SU-25(k) hasn’t moved, and neither has the Pantsir.
Very Balanced, 10/10 decision.
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yep, if onlt the Lynxes had CCIP for rockets they would be a lot better for when i bring it out usually (when i have nothing else to spawn cause my stupid ass doesnt bring SPAA)
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