So can the Skink, right?
You mean the highly mobile tank-wrecking Skink? Oh … wait …
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Discussions on the forum man.
When people just disagree with everything you say just to disagree, so they throw in whatever supports their argument, even when it has actually no relevance.
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“highly mobile” it’s a panther g hull bro you’re Sherman level, and the skink can kill tanks at its br, a whole 2 ranks below.
Skink is super slow and it’s 20mm guns are meh. The thing moves at 32km/hr MAX and the guns pen 35mm armor at 100m. What tanks at it’s BR (5.3) you figure it has a good chance of killing?
well from that statement I assume stuff with 35mm of armor and I thought it was 5.0, for the actually point of the tank, shooting planes it’s really good
Sure it decent at shooting planes with 4 guns. But that part of the thread had taken a tangent and was discussing spaa vs ground units.
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Good players + busted vehicle, of course it’s going to wreak havoc…
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I rush ZSU-57-2 all the time. They’re hopeless vs Flakpanzer 341. If a ZSU-57-2 takes me out I actually get mad, because it’s something that just should not happen. Anyway, 341 is now my most played vehicle, lol. Next goal is 69% (nice) overall winrate in it. Sitting at 68.7% right now.
Aren’t all spaa from 6.7 and up good anti everything in general?
There are some, like the M163, that are pretty much air (and some light tanks) only, as they have modest pen at best.
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Some of the situations you can get 341 in and survive is just laughable. ZSU-57-2 would never.
Enemy were abusing me in chat after that one.
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it doesn’t need to have the aphe belt removed, just nerfed. maybe to the state it was before it got buffed for no reason
Yeah, nah. The pen it has it what it had IRL - see:
The issue people have is one that exists with all APHE shells in the game - they explode like nukes. The community was against any APHE change, so now you have to put up with 37mm nukes.
But really, the buff has been a positive one. German winrates in those BRs have improved since the change. Not just because of how good the 341 is, but because experienced players are going out of their way to use it. Well done, Gaijin.
Also: If you play Germany around these BRs, you know that German mains hate using SPAA. They will bring a King Tiger… get bombed… and then spawn in another King Tiger. At least with the 341, even if you spend most the battle nuking ground targets, it’s there to curve stomp Allied CAS, too. Yeah, it could always SPAA before the buff, but people that had the 341 weren’t playing it for just SPAA, they were off using other lineups. The increase in ground lethality has led to more SPAA being present on German teams.
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As it’s not in main TT, really, how many players actually have this and can affect the general outcome of German stats?
I’d be surprised if many 341 players turn their attention from tank-killing (which gives better score) to shooting at CAS. And it’s not like Germany doesn’t have other main TT options for spaa around those BRs. Zerstorer and Kugle are both decent at shooting down CAS.
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It’s all there in global stats for Germany 7.0 winrate. Compare with before the APHE addition.
Who thinks about score when killing things? Weird mindset. No one uses Zerstorer and most German mains don’t bother with Kugel. Anyway, the 341 has had a big impact for Germany 7.0.
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Below are some numbers to digest…
Notice the change in targets for a recent month vs all time. A lot less attention paid to air vs ground.
And coincidentally the rewards per game (but of course no one cares about that…)
341 (all time)
Games Played 12,600,660
Victories 5,253,919
Win Rate 41.7%
Spawns 13,244,456
Ground Kills 5,179,268
Air Kills 5,578,312 (52%)
Naval Kills N/A
Deaths 9,272,700
Kills per Spawn 0.81
Kills per Death 1.16
SL per Game 3,892
RP per Game 255
341 Jan 2026
Games Played 186,866
Victories 92,130
Win Rate 49.3%
Spawns 236,443
Ground Kills 293,826
Air Kills 77,189 (21%)
Naval Kills N/A
Deaths 189,855
Kills per Spawn 1.57
Kills per Death 1.95
SL per Game 7,255
RP per Game 482