Fixing top tier ground rb 😡 (proposal)

Well I don’t need to list out the problems current ground rb faces. But in short… too powerful cas not much powerful spaa systems and basically air rb in disguise and only a few planes can do cas or cap due to most planes that are at a similiar tier not having ARH missiles. The problem has become quite overbearing and the recent br changes have not changed much. Let’s be honest moving everything up is not gonna change anything in particular

PROPOSAL:
Well it is actually quite a few points.

1.) Splitting ground RB into 2 modes

  • True TOP TIER GRB - Rafale, Eurofighter, SU 30SM + SU 34, F15E + F15C, F16C, GRIPEN C, etc… All the ARH carrying planes… + PANTSIR S1 + future multi vehicle spaa systems… Tanks would be the same… You can also move spike helicopters here

  • And Normal GRB - Basically everything else that is below that does not have arh missiles or ir guided 12km missiles.

This arrangement should allow people that want to enjoy just tank gameplay pre 2025 can enjoy it cuz lets be honest that was peak ground rb and the current situation is just broken

OR

Just ban these planes and spaa from top tier, like in the ongoing ground esports tournaments…

2.) Introduce multi vehicle spaa (only for true top tier and not below… again it would make spaa the broken aspect and as much as some people would want that it would be hell and not balanced for anyone that is not the top dog.)

3.) Balance the rest of the cas aircraft… - some of this has been done and in coming in the next update br changes… Like stuff like mirage 4k which has nord missiles which are laser guided but it does not get a thermal pod and only 4 missiles can be carried + no hmd so it should not be at the same 12.7 br that the current monsters are at especially without arh missiles or hmd or thermals or fire and forget capability… just does not make sense and is not balanced at all…

  • YES BRING THESE CHANGES
  • NO IT IS FINE (NO IT IS NOT AND NOBODY SHOULD SELECT THIS)
  • YES BUT WITH SLIGHT MODIFICATIONS
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Top tier is an unbalanced mess rife with Russian Bias but your solution proposal is equally garbage, frankly speaking. Also, Pre-2025 top tier ground was still a cluster show - Infact it always has been - and frankly it will never get better because Gaijin doesn’t know how to balance this game. They couldn’t balance it properly even if you put a gun to the head of each and every Gaijin employee, as unfortunate as it is to say.

Aside from the severe imbalance between nations in regard to vehicle access and capabilities.

Maps are too small and are World of Tanks-style corridors if they’re not large and full of nothing but open space between 3 corridors.

Objectives are not equally placed nor equally accessible between teams. There’s also a severe lack of additional completable objectives to add variety to the match - Especially for anyone flying CAP/CAS. Not to forget that the airfields and helipads are too close to the AO.

Gaijin is supposedly working on extra SPAA access and protection from CAS but we’ll see how that goes.

Frankly speaking, the best way to avoid rage playing top tier is just to not play top tier. Simple as.

The soviet tech tree lives in your head rent free

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They don’t need to split ground into separate modes, literally all they need to do is make these top tier jets have their ARB BR’s in GRB, whilst keeping ground stuff where it is.

That way, people who put 13.3-14.0 aircraft in their ground lineup, are exclusively being matched with others who also put 13.3-14.0 aircraft in their lineup.

People who don’t want to get mauled by top CAS eternally can simply opt out of those matches by limiting themselves to 12.0 aircraft in their lineup.

Well, it does still exist in War Thunder after all.

WoT maps are less than 1/4th the size.
There is no Russian bias.
And just cause CAS is OP doesn’t make CAS Russian.

If it’s the tournament line up Everyone can slaughter Alphajets or f84f… there need to be more towards CAS for their high respawn points

hmmm… not exactly copy paste… like include other cas planes that do not get 24km ir deleters

I feel like CAS should need WAY more SP to spawn. People literally breathe in ground RB and manage to spawn in a plane with a full loadout, in every tier by the way. That scouting mechanic makes it even worse.

I disagree with that cuz I know players that just use cas and have that playstyle… It is a valid playstyle just not in op planes that you cannot do anything about

Like cas at low tiers is counterable and balanced…

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I often die more and actually kill more planes than tanks in GROUND RB. Did it just now matter of fact. CAS needs to be toned down a bit. You cap a single point, which half of the time is really easy at the very start of a battle, scout a few target with light tanks or get a single kill, and there you go, plane and bombs/missiles. It should be harder, not INSANELY easy. Wanna grind planes? Play Air AB/RB/SB.

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Play more 8.0-11.0. Enjoy slaughtering CAS & CAP at the same time with AAA from shilka to Tor.

again, every time i read GRB players talk about the game i have to ask: why do you guys still play this game mode even though its absolutely terrible?

like from a pure design point of view, its fundamentally flawed, yet it seems GRB concentrates most of the discussion around the game, i dont get it.

It’s because there is literally nothing else similar on the market.

The hypocrisy is crazy just to say ground vehicles only mode but with AGM-65 or Kh-29 still available.