Fix the Horten

Fuel loading matters as we do not have custom fuel load slider (after 11 years of game’s existance for some reason). Me 262 is a gimped plane in WT to begin with and a lighter plane (about 1000kg lighter) than the Ho 229 believe it or not. Just like the Fw 190’s are all completely neutered planes. Nicknamed butcher birds have worse maneuverability in the game than russian medium bombers lmao. Anyway…

I remember some 2(?) years ago I was able to catch S.O.4050 Vautour IIN going full speed on ground level Afghanistan. I was redlining the Horten at 1150kmh
Nowadays it can barely get over 800kmh.
That’s a 25 % speed nerf.

Ofc it won’t the engine acceleration got nerfed to the ground

Some bug i found on the Horten


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Have mercy on 5.7 props. They cannot do ANYTHING to a Horten, other than in very good teamplay, and you know how that works in WT. Don’t let 5.7 props experience this: replay link (deleted)
It’s enough that the BI is 6.7 and completely terrorizes 5.7 whenever it appears, and same for the P-59.

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Small message so this topic don’t get forgotten, so pls don’t forget the Horten

Just going to leave this replay here
replay link

They can definitely fight a horton and win pretty easily…

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My peer review: No.

Ok, GL with that rudder and accel lol

Don’t need much rudder when you’re stalling out because I can maintain 500 KMH IAS turns.

lol? you are not out turning most props considering the lack of rudder and the lower stall speed and lower t/w

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Looks like you’ve never seen how well the Horten keeps speed in turns that are not 13G. I cook you for a couple of seconds with energy retention and then it doesn’t matter how high your thrust to weight is, you’re falling out of the air with no control.
Edit: here, take this 8 kill replay against props. Props didn’t exactly have an easy time killing me. replay link

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I didn’t see this sorry for the late replay. i can’t view the replay unfortunately since i am on my phone but will watch it later on the pc

Dude the Horton can practically turn on its own axel and already terrorizes the props it does face. A crappy rudder isn’t gonna stop you from turning in and having a firing position

I believe i already know that since i faced props in a 229 and if they don’t have speed or altitude advantage they are simply dead

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for the record the 229 is good around it’s Br and i enjoy flying it, the reason i created these posts about the 229 is just to fix and discuss bugs and some inaccuracies around the 229 (Ho 229 missing components and other misconceptions) unfortunately not much i can do about them the rest is left for the dev team and their opinions about the plane, not to mention i got a nuke with that thing https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/s/lETgYyoOfv

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Yeah it will lol. You clearly do not have experience flying the Horton. It can’t dogfight props.

lol no, you can definitely bnz them forever and they cant catch you but you are a large target that is easy to shoot if you overshoot and extremely fragile, combined with the fact since you have no rudder and poor energy retention with poor thrust you will lose the long term dogfight pretty easily.

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You’re just overrating it man. It does not win these.

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Specifically speaking, yeah, its intended purpose of creation was to be a “stealth” Bomber, but it was never fitted with bombs, or guns to that matter. If you want to know more about it, it’s in the Smithsonian Museum Archives, the Horten 229 V3 flying wing.