Final Separate Battle Ratings by Gamemode Changes & What We’re Planning for Attack Aircraft with All-Aspect Missiles in Air Battles

[SoloWing_Makarov]

I sure love taking A-10A to 11.0 because there’s no tanks at 10.7, only to face Pantsirs and get instakilled by them.

[Smin1080p_WT]

@AlvisWisla

They likely have a high efficiency because the limited players that play them in air RB are skilled players.

These types of metrics are also already taken into consideration for all vehicles.

[Hazeldsr]

@Smin1080p

munitions make no difference in ARB

Why is it called Battle rating if all you take into consideration is economy efficiency and not combat efficiency

[tpom]

Hello Smin, quick question.

Is the planned forward spawn for the SU25’s, A10’s and A-6E going to be an airspawn?
And if so does that mean that all other attackers/strike aircraft will receive them or are they going to be unique to the planes I listed?

[KillMe2UnlockDLC]

Please bring F-5E back to 10.7, no one will use is over the F-4E and you will ruin the Chinese 10.7 line-up. Thank you please put it back to 10.7.

[Necronomica]

Hi! :)

I never got an answer in the previous post so i’m trying here again:

@Necronomica

Do you account for the vehicles being used above their BR?
say for example the CV9040C/BILL being the end of the line for Swedish autocannon light tanks and thus WAY more likely to be brought into higher BR battles. Do you only count efficiency in the vehicles respective BR’s matches or is it a complete set that includes all matches ever?
Because if a vehicle is at BR 10 and gets brought to BR 11.7 matches by almost all players then that efficiency number get VERY skewed in relation to its BR placement.
How is that calculated?

I Also wonder about the AJ37/AJS37 efficiency, it seams weird to me that those would be performing on par with their BR counterparts in Air battles.

Edit: that goes for AJ37/AJS37 GRB as well as those were the top attack choice for Sweden for a long time.

[Smin1080p_WT]

@tpom

Hello Smin, quick question.

Is the planned forward spawn for the SU25’s, A10’s and A-6E going to be an airspawn?
And if so does that mean that all other attackers/strike aircraft will receive them or are they going to be unique to the planes I listed?

Hey.

We will have more details closer to the implementation of this feature as it will be after the major update. Right now it’s for the A-10s, Su-25, Su-25K and A-6E due to their particular circumstances and the feedback we received on them. This is a two fold change with an increase in BR for them but also a forward spawn.

[AlvisWisla]

That is an answer I wanted.
Thank you for the information, Smin. I appreciate the response.

[Butane9000]

As someone who was advocating for an attacker air spawn for the A-10 I can at least get behind this decision. One of the biggest challenges in an Air RB match is the fact that you get to the battle late with little enemy players to engage in if your team is good or an overwhelming enemy force if your team is bad. Not to point out the occasional enemy player which climbs quickly to 20K ft to flank over and hit you when you’re going to battle.

Maybe it’s me in my experience but I feel like the AIM-9s on the A-10 just under peform and you only get 2. I still think you need to take a long hard look at mechanical specs of aircraft first when determining BR.

@Smin1080p

As we mentioned, the feeling is well understood and we are going to revisit it later after the major update and other changes after there can be comprehensive studies into what can be done.

Then the title of this post is wrong. It should be “Last Pre-Update” BR changes posting or some such to denote that the matter is still being looked into after the patch goes live.

[tpom]

Thanks for the reply and for clarifying this, its appreciated.

[T3ddy4]

@Stona_WT

The Battle Ratings of the A-10s, Su-25 and Su-25k, and the A-6E TRAM in Air Battles will be increased by 1 step (for example the A-10A Late will move from 10.3 to 10.7). This is so that some aircraft below the Battle Rating of these attackers that lack countermeasures will stop facing them at all or face them less frequently.

Great change, very late, but better late than never. I still dont really get why you gave them powerful a-a missiles in the first place, because all you have done is backed yourself into a corner with an impossible to balance plane, and the real solution to the issue with them is to swap their all aspect missiles with non-all aspect ones. If you did that then you could lower their BR in ARB to make them more efficient. All you need to do now is move the F-104A/C up to 9.7/10.0 and you will have relieved so much pressure on a lot of vehicles and made the 8.3-9.3 br range playable again. Then you can revert the ridiculus change you made to the Mig-15s and early Sabres.

[HuberrtPL]

Tbh this br change it just pointless, increase ground br first

[Smin1080p_WT]

@Butane9000

Then the title of this post is wrong. It should be “Last Pre-Update” BR changes posting or some such to denote that the matter is still being looked into after the patch goes live.

These are the final changes planed for this round and as part of the implementation of seperate BRs. So this is indeed the final part of the current changes based on all feedback so far. Anything further as we said will come in sperate updates and reviews.

[VelvetCrowe TLoC]

Where is AS-30L?

[SoloWing_Makarov]

In same place where Skipper is. In dreams.

[Godvana]

The real AS-30Ls were the friends we made along the way

[Master_Teaz]

@AlvisWisla

Okay… there’s an issue where ground attackers could end the match in 90 seconds again.

someosnes gonna reduce teh cas kill record from like 55 seconds to 30-40 from match start

[Richardguy]

@Smin1080p F-16ADF (Air Defense Fighter, cannot carry ordnance) should not be the same BR as the F-16A with Mavericks and Guided Bombs.

[Master_Teaz]

It doesn’t have them yet, it will recieve them when the seperate BRs come, probabally in the next patch
Edit i didnt realise the BRs literall just came right now, but still probabally wait for next patch

[Marcüs]

What will be the BR in squadron battles?