any ideas between 11.7 f104 asa- and 13.3 f16adf. maybe its time for f104 asa-m, as 12.0?
Yeah, put more F104 in 12.0
This is what ppl need…lol
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if it gets put in italy, mig-21 lancer could be 12.0/12.3
but also tornado ADV already performs well at 12.0 imo, at least if you ignore the current compression issues from 12.3-13.3
The F-104S ASA/M is not really the answer. It only used AIM-9Ls and later improved variants of the AIM-9L family, such as the L/I and L/I-1, but no SARH missiles, since the Aspide capability had already been removed by the ASA/M stage. And honestly, the F-104 is already painful enough to play, so another one probably wouldn’t help much.
After the F-104, the ItAF basically relied on the Tornado ADV and later the F-16 ADF for air defence.
Italy also operated a few F-16B Block 10s, but those were standard two-seaters rather than ADF aircraft, so they wouldn’t really fill the gap either.
If you want something genuinely different between the F-104 and F-16 in the Italian tree, you probably have to use and/or hope for a Hungarian or Romanian aircraft/subtree addition. There simply isn’t much else from the Italian Air Force itself that fits that slot.