What? Brit and french vehicles being overteired and forgotten about? I thought that was just a feature of the game. We still have the EBR 1951 and Desert Warrior being wildly overteired after how many years?
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Ngl I like the 1951, it’s very map dependant but it’s a pretty okay vehicle(stock grind is hell on earth and solid shot can suck it.)
Besides as long as people keep using them as SPAA they won’t have the stats lowered enough to have their BRs changed unfortunately
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I agree so much my name says so.
Bring back 30x170 APDS-T. It was just way too fun, I never actually thought it was OP; just a very scry tank that need to be tken care of.
And IRL it was shooting those, so sad they removed it.
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I completely disagree, both of these tech trees need lower br SPAAs, due to the gaps in their SPAA line they both have.
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Except neither of these AA are going to be at those brs. At best the falcon goes to 7.3 and the DCA to 7.7, but likely higher given the devs track record
@Pheonix_RX01 Nah. Its a chaffee sidegrade. While the chaffee also does decent in upteirs, its not a 5.3 vehicle.
Idk I’d say it’s a bit better than the Chaffee, closer to like 4.3 but I also prefer the higher tier maps because they get bigger and let you flank even better than the super smol maps
They do need something, but something else. 30mm APDS in an SPAA was very unique (I don’t count Guepards, because they are very limited) and fun.
Those are pretty mid at anti-CAS, since they have not only a lowr caliber than most of the SPAA of the same BR, but as well a worst fire rate.
No reason to put Falcon with search and tracking radar down to 7.3. it can also easily melt things from the side with it’s APHE sphere of doom.
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I’ll be honest, i didn’t realize they finally pushed the radar update. It had search, then only tracking, then search again. Then it sat in the dev branch for a while and never getting promoted to prod through through multiple updates. The ZA-35 is just better at 8.7 and there isn’t a 8.3 list i want to run.
If its about the AT potential ~7.7, its not particularly good. You have the VEAK, Flakpanzer 341, and ZSU 37/2 all better. And all but the flakpanzer are still pretty bad. The only thing the falcon has is chassis size. 53 pen aphe isn’t impressive.
That’s the thing, Falcon has more than just plain AT, unlike ZSU-57-2 for example.
The main problem was SAP and APHE which wasnt addressed so no they cant downtier the falcon. The AMX-30DCA could be 8.3 though
Meanwhile the sidam
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don’t let this fool you into thinking the SIDAM 25 isnt horrible though
Jokes on you, i like the sidam more than the shilka
doesn’t change the fact that its still worse than 35mm SPAAs, 35mm SPAAs have 68mm of pen on the APHE vs 53mm on the 30mm of the falcon and amx30, while most are on faster chassis aswell as all the 35mms being stabilised too, compared to the Gepard at 8.3 they are both vastly inadequate at both anti-air and anti-tank roles.
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Not a high bar to be honest, SIDAM is overall a pretty bad vehicle though.
This should be solved by fixing the SAP/HE on the 35mm SPAA as well as the 30mm SPAA and fixing their radars
