a while ago gaijin removed the APDS ammo from the amx-30 DCA and the falcon, with the falcon receiving a radar in exchange, which at first seemed great, but then upon inspection the falcon’s radar has been broken since its addition, with it failing to acquire lock from its search radar pings, I personally bug reported this issue on day one of its addition with zero response even months later. Edit: it seems it has now been fixed, this has happened recently after I posted this thread, id like to think I have involvement with this :)
Then there’s the other issues that these two have, the balancing changes these received in the past are still here, firstly we have the amx-30 DCA with its 40s reload still present, then also the BR placements these received in the past also remain unchanged, with the falcon and AMX-30DCA sitting at 8.3 and 8.7 Respectively, retaining their old battle ratings with these SPAAs now being used as anti aircraft, rather than anti tank, they cant really compete against the jets they can face.
as for what should change I say move the falcon to 8.0 where its needed as there’s already the marksman at 8.3, and as for the AMX-30 DCA move it to 8.0-8.3, and at the very least the falcons radar should be fixed.
Edits: grammar
Edit: here’s a graph of kills per spawn over time for those saying “APDS wasn’t the problem”, its pretty clear when APDS was removed.
What? Brit and french vehicles being overteired and forgotten about? I thought that was just a feature of the game. We still have the EBR 1951 and Desert Warrior being wildly overteired after how many years?
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I agree so much my name says so.
Bring back 30x170 APDS-T. It was just way too fun, I never actually thought it was OP; just a very scry tank that need to be tken care of.
And IRL it was shooting those, so sad they removed it.
Except neither of these AA are going to be at those brs. At best the falcon goes to 7.3 and the DCA to 7.7, but likely higher given the devs track record
@Pheonix_RX01 Nah. Its a chaffee sidegrade. While the chaffee also does decent in upteirs, its not a 5.3 vehicle.
Idk I’d say it’s a bit better than the Chaffee, closer to like 4.3 but I also prefer the higher tier maps because they get bigger and let you flank even better than the super smol maps
They do need something, but something else. 30mm APDS in an SPAA was very unique (I don’t count Guepards, because they are very limited) and fun.
Those are pretty mid at anti-CAS, since they have not only a lowr caliber than most of the SPAA of the same BR, but as well a worst fire rate.
I’ll be honest, i didn’t realize they finally pushed the radar update. It had search, then only tracking, then search again. Then it sat in the dev branch for a while and never getting promoted to prod through through multiple updates. The ZA-35 is just better at 8.7 and there isn’t a 8.3 list i want to run.
If its about the AT potential ~7.7, its not particularly good. You have the VEAK, Flakpanzer 341, and ZSU 37/2 all better. And all but the flakpanzer are still pretty bad. The only thing the falcon has is chassis size. 53 pen aphe isn’t impressive.
doesn’t change the fact that its still worse than 35mm SPAAs, 35mm SPAAs have 68mm of pen on the APHE vs 53mm on the 30mm of the falcon and amx30, while most are on faster chassis aswell as all the 35mms being stabilised too, compared to the Gepard at 8.3 they are both vastly inadequate at both anti-air and anti-tank roles.
