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I would like to suggest this self propelled Krupp Fahrpanzer armed with either a 5,3 cm Gruson or 5,7 cm Gruson gun, placed upon a stripped down MAN-Saurer Modell 1915.
Its exact history is sadly unknown, but most likely it followed the same path the many other german truck mounted armarment, such as the Benz Gaggenau Typ 5 with 8,8 cm SK L/45 and other truck conversions with 7,7 cm Guns with and without gunshields, beeing the mobilization of usable Anti tank and anti infantry (also usually AA, but not in this case) guns, to quickly react to Attacks, espeically of tanks along the frontline, as espeically in the later time of WW1, the german industry was in trouble of producing enove guns and vehicles, simply duo to material shortage as well as other war related things.
Mounting the Fahrpanzer, which is usually a fixed turret, placed into a fortification, untill transported to the next front line via a horse carrege, was mostly rife caliber proof (for the lower hull) as well as prove against some more fire power to the top part, which was made from 40mm thick Cast-iron, with the dome beeing heavily angled as well. It was crewed of 2 people, 1 beeing the gunner/loader and another to resupply ammo into the Fahrpanzer (it however did also have a internal ammo storage).
In this case, the Truck was completly stripped down (to propably save weight) and the Fahrpanzer was fixed right behind the cut down cabin, with a full 360° View.
In normal service, these Fahrpanzer would be driven around on a horse pulled carrage made from wood to the next frontline and dug in the ground or placed behind reinforced walls, to be AT/AI guns, with mainly 2 different guns, beeing the 5,3 cm Gruson L/24,5 (Often just written as 5 cm) and the improved upsized 5,7 cm Gruson L/25,6. The whole Fahrpanzer was the same with both guns, on the Photo the gun sadly isnt visible, so from an in game perspecive i suggest the 5,7 cm Gruson L/25,6 simply as its more powerfull, see comparisson further down.
Its crew could be composed of 4 people, 2 in the Fahrpanzer, 2 on the truck.
In game, it would offer especially for a WW1 Mode a relatively quick (in comparisson to Tanks of ww1) slightly (at least partly) against rifle caliber rounds as well as hull down against more.
With enove fire power to relatively easily destroy all tanks even from the front (ww1 Tanks) when armed with the 5,7 cm Guson L/25,6.
The 2 Possible guns:
Overall Only the caliber and firepower changes, but the Armor, Traverse and Elevation as well as Reloadspeed remain identical:
360° (in 15 Sec or 24°/sec) +/-10° Elevation and Depression each. With 30-35 Rounds per minute.
~100 Rounds reserve.
Cince they are identical except performance, i sugges the 57mm gun, as with 40mm of penetration (instead of 28mm) it would be of great use againt armor (even against low BR ww2 tanks).
5,3 cm Gruson L/24,5
Armor: 40mm Cast Iron, lower hull 10-14,5mm Steel Plating.
Caliber: 53mm
Ammo: 53x177mm
Fire Rate: 30-35 rpm
Single Shot
Muzzle velocity: 480-495m/s
Weight: 160kg
Mounting: Main Fixed turret Gun 360° Traverse at 24°/sec +/-10° Elevation
Ammo Types: SAPHE, Shrapnell-TF
SAPHE:
Utility:
Bodenkammer Schrapnell Gr. (Shrapnell-TF) 2,4kg 40g Blackpowder 480m/s Some Penetration?
Contains 128 Hrad Cast Lead Balls of 8g and 36 Hard Cast Lead Pieces of 9g each.
Like a Crude WW1 AHEAD round, detonating mid air and ejecting the Shrapnell onto the target.
Or the Prefered:
5,7 cm Gruson L/25,6
Armor: 40mm Cast Iron, lower hull 10-14,5mm Steel Plating.
Caliber: 57mm
Ammo: 57x250mmR
Fire Rate: 30-35 rpm
Single Shot
Muzzle velocity: 495m/s
Weight: 160kg
Mounting: Main Fixed turret Gun 360° Traverse at 24°/sec +/-10° Elevation
Ammo Types: APHE, HE
AP:
5,7 cm Gr. m.P (P) (Aphe (Tracerless)) 3,1 kg 0,12 kg Fp.02 490m/s with 40mm/10m penetration.
HE:
5,7 cm Gr. (P) (He (Tracerless)) 2,75 kg 0,16 kg Fp.02 495m/s Some Penetration
The Vehicle:
MAN-Saurer Modell 1915 5T. 45 PS Kettenantrieb.
Top Speed: 18 km/h (While the PS is low, duo to gearing its slow but for its time extremly powerfull.
Engine: 4 Cylinder 45 Ps at 1000 Rpm
Weight: 3120 kg
Dimensions: 6,1 m / 2,2 m / 1,8 m
Source:
“Motorwagen des Jahres 1914” (A Pamphlet)
Private Gallery.
Notes on German Shells 1918 (Second edition)
German Artillery 1914-1918 (Wolfgang Fleischer)