F4S Phantom 2 trimming

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what’s wrong with it? i wont believe Phantom pilots had to pull the stick all the way to a dogfight and back.
yet thats what i have to do in a ASB. trim settings wont do anything. i know they working in general - other plaines are working fine. but this one just dont care what trim% im setting. doesnt matter if its a -100 or +100.

if youre using damping stabilization then trim is unavailable

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Are you using damping or automatic leveling mode? That could be causing an issue if you think you aren’t pulling as hard as you should be.

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yeah… im using sas. oh ffs that plane… why is sas working fine with trimming on one plane, but not on the other? damping stabilization is the main thing why i started to play SB recently.

If you are using damping then it severely limits how hard the plane will react to your controls. If you are getting in to a dogfight then you should probably turn it off if you aren’t going to be able to hit an off-boresight missile shot because you probably won’t be able to get your nose on target properly with damping on.

Also, the F-4S has the Agile Eagle upgrade and using combat flaps helps the boat of an aircraft turn a bit better. Dogfighting probably isn’t the best thing to do in the F-4 since it is such a large, heavy aircraft. If you are carrying payload of any sort it makes it perform much more poorly than without.

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well it basically filtering sudden moves for me and i really need this a lot more, than i need trimming. its just will be a second thing i really hate about Phantom in ASB. another is absence of HUD.
but thanks for the advices anyway.