Why should I care about your hypocrisy again?
Take care. Go troll someone else.
Being honest here, both of you are acting like 5 year olds who have been told yes too many times.
Bro can’t even take the L normally
He was proven wrong by multiple people across multiple threads btw
I agree, and sorry to spam your thread.
He mentioned an old discussion about WTRTI vs statshark where I realised he was also the dude going head-on against actual proff again with bad-faith arguments. He is the same guy I had a similar discussion long before and there is no point in arguing with him.
This you?

And same guy who said I never flew a phantom because he didn’t spot a kurnass being my 2nd highest played jet.
You calling anyone “bad faith” is pot kettle black. Especially when you lied that I didn’t use a vehicle I played to make a point.
Is this the part where you go “but I apologized” like as if an apology makes it any less a bad faith argument.
And you disliking statshark is irrelevant, the majority of players deemed that statshark is a reliable tool for missile and plane data.
Yes. Everything is explained in that topic and in the topic I linked. Even the Suggestion moderator agreed and explained that WTRTI was a lot more accurate in the topic I linked above.
For the sake of respecting OP’s I won’t keep on going, it is going offtopic again, and it is also a closed argument which you selectively ignore, and keep calling me a hypocrite for some reason.
Mistake from my part which I aknowledged, despite you not having played the F-4J or any other phantom, which was still my main point at that time. So you are nitpicking and still in the wrong.
Only for raw data. You misrepresenting them is a failure point. You also missed the opening statement:

Read:
But “you didn’t play this other phantom!!!” does not make it any better pal. Do you punch someone then go “but I donate to charity”? Sounds ridiculous right?
Ladies, i done said stop arguing.
even missiles with DL do it
If this Phantom is supposed to be 11.7, the Tornado IDS which only has AIM-9s, is slower, and has zero dogfight capabilities should be 10.7, and the IDS ASSTA1/SLE should be 11.3 in air RB, since it is an infinitely inferior plane in air combat.
The IDS ASSTA1 should be 10.7 and put the regular IDS at 11.3
If it cant really dogfight, then im all for bringing it down, the balance can worry later
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Most strike jets are blatantly overtired. And NE doesn’t fully solve it imho.
The ground and air BRs were separated a while ago but gaijin didn’t really use them to balance strike jets.
It’s very dependent on the user, for someone, a 3-2kdr might mean the jet is just ok.
For me, OP planes start to get into the 4-5kdr territory.
For someone who is below average, having a 1kdr might mean the jet is OP
The F-4J, and the F-4FGs are the examples of what 12.0 vehicles are supposed to be.
Extremely strong radars.
Great flight performance for FG & FGR2.
Great radar missiles for both.
The only way these aircraft could go down is if Mig-23MLs go down as well, which shouldn’t happen.
Worse flight performance, less radar missiles.
Decompressing 13.0 fixes 12.0’s issues.

