Why yes, it flies mildly faster than one aircraft out of 20+ it may face.
…While still being an underwhelming, power-creeped aircraft that has to fight the tip-top of power creepers. I guess getting an extra two Aim-7Fails somehow makes up for that, especially when the current top-tier meta is flying low and even more so when the sparrows just tend to do a loop or fail drastically in some other way for a good chunk of the community despite what should be a perfect acquirement.
Edit: Let’s not even mention the Kurnass 2000 with six Python 3s (rather fantastic missiles), and agile eagle flaps at 11.3.
But the aim9m/aam3 the best missle in the game atm
Sending it to 12.3 will be similar to all the ground premiums at 11.3. All matches will be effectively 12.7 and higher. If in consideration of lower br planes, when I played the f4ej at 11.7 after the br changes, uptiers never happened and 12.0 aircraft were rare. I don’t see why that would change.
At most, a br of 12.0 would likely still be somewhat confortable, where flight performance vs missiles is the only comparison between peers.
If the f4ej kai was to get aam3 at the cost of 12.3, I would reject that and stay with aim9ls, because I don’t want to only face 12.7 aircraft and be stomped 24/7
If you’re talking about the F-4EJ Kai (I have Alvis blocked) then the EJ Kai is still doing quite well in current meta due to its matchmaker and its weapons/avionics.
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…Can’t the K2000 or F-16AJ accomplish most of what it can do, but better one way or another?
EJ Kai is not power-crept at all.
Saying meta radar missiles are bad cause half the match flies on the ground most of the time still doesn’t change that they’re good missiles.
EJ Kai is better than all but two 11.3s in the game, those two are coincidentally Kurnass 2000 and Viggen D, which are themselves OP at 11.3, which you mention even. It should be brought back to 11.7 where it belongs.
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That’s why EJ Kai should retain its existing loadout and stay at 11.7 where it’s both balanced and strong.
This is also why I never ask for missiles on my favorite aircraft, cause it will lead to higher BRs to where they are now and make me no longer play it.
F-14B should always retain 9Ls only, so it can stay 12.0 where it’s fun.
EJ Kai is fun at 11.7.
Viggen will be fun at 11.3/11.7 without AMRAAMs.
Mirage 4000 is fun at 12.7 without MICA EMs.
And so forth.
I’d take a Magic 2 only Rafale if that was an option.
Id take a gimped f2 with just aam3s and aim7s at this point
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Tornado ADV? Sure it’s technically not a 7F but it’s a contemporary
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I personally did think Tornado ADV is under-BR’d, however it does have worse radar missiles, a worse radar, and cannot dogfight.
Though it is slightly faster at mach 1.2 instead of 1.15 of EJ Kai.
K2000 no because doesn’t have SARH so its just different, not better, and the F-16AJ is a much higher BR.
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12.0 compared to 11.7 is “such a higher BR”? That’s literally just one higher, and means they’ll see majority same enemies…
I thought the 16AJ was 12.3 tbh, not sure why it isn’t. Either way it’s a lower BR (F-4EJ) so it’s not directly comparable. The game is just compressed if you’re wondering why they’re only 0.3br apart.
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Only actual difference is a mild improvement in mobility bc it uses the f16a block 10 frame with block 15 missiles. if it had the funny gear door pylons, maybe it would be 12.3 but that isnt here.
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It’s just sad seeing TTs like the JPN one stagnate because people don’t want to give vehicles the features/armaments they have for the sake of fun, when decompression could mean they could do both…
But because of player stagnancy and stubbornness, Gaijin gets off free, same reason prems are rapidly approaching $100 in price and suckers are still buying em
I mean, it’s 12.0 cause if its flight performance over EJ Kai. That’s obvious.
Whether flight performance should only be 0.3 is up to you.
I think it’s fine personally, but we’re also allowed to disagree with each other on this.
Again, it hardly ever matters given they see most of the same aircraft and see top-tier.
The solution here should be moving top-tier higher and giving the EJ Kai the missiles it carried IRL, but I guess the F-5C getting flares it never had and the Yak-141 getting most of its utilities It never had get to be outliers for some reason…
Not to mention, implying a Phantom with AAM-3s at 12.0/12.3 wouldn’t be fun to play sounds quite silly.
What are you on about? Mig-29 9.13 uses R-60Ms, which it did use.
And EJ Kai did have access to 9Ls.
If you want an EJ Kai with AAM-3s, the F-15J is there as a faster F-4 to begin with.
Also when F-4EJ Kai gets 30 flares max in June, I think you’ll appreciate the fact it’s 11.7 instead.
Oh man, the hardbody Phantom that sees top-tier getting nerfed to 30 flares? Surely, that means it should see either a BR change or buff, then, right?
Once again, if Gaijin can get off their keisters to nerf the flare count for realism, they should adhere to that in giving the EJ Kai that would make it truly special for a Phantom, like the Kurnass 2000 already mentioned a good few times.
The difference in opinion here is that I don’t believe hardly any of the 12.0s belong there currently and you’re comparing the 16AJ to those.
you would give the EJ Kai better missiles OR decompress, not both.