These planes are outrageously overpowered at 13.0 and dominate a large majority of the matches you find them in. It would not be unreasonable to move them to 13.3, so the 12.0 - 13.0 bracket can be playable.
yea but if you move them at 13.3 with only fox 1&2 i don’t think they stand a lot of change against 14.3
only if the C10 and 13.3 Su30’s move up
the prem s30 should go 13.7 and the su27 at 13.0
Then only play it in 12.3-13.3 brackets
As for the idea… I get the logic, but with the current compression… That area is a total mess.
Until such time they decompress, it’s not going to change much in the grand scheme of things.
The aircraft itself compensates for lack of missiles. Highly agile, good speed, good acceleration, good radar, and good fox 2’s. I think its performance would go down in that bracket for sure, but as of right now it’s absolutely dominating every 12.0 to 13.0 bracket.
I wouldn’t have a problem with this…
Agreed, the compression sucks as of right now, and definitely needs changes made.
No one is forcing people to play it when it’s bottom bracket. Frankly I think this is a great idea, the F2A is just a disgusting plane at 13.0. AAM3s are the bane of everyone’s existence, it has a good FM and 4 AIM7’s too.
It wouldn’t even change anything for the people using it other than for 1 bracket where it would no longer be top tier, facing 14.0 which isn’t even too big of a jump up from 13.7. Six out of eight other days, everything would be identical. I see this as a net positive for 12.0 planes which wouldn’t have to face this stupidity anymore.
yea i agree the same with the su27 that’s for same reason 13.3
The Topicstarter is not confused by the C10, which alone is able to withstand the entire red team. I wonder why that is?
The SU-30s are really pretty good for their rating, but they don’t pose a threat if you know how blind their radar is. You can approach them completely unnoticed.
Nothing will help 12.0 airplanes. There is too much difference in avionics even when compared with 12.3.
we already have planes with fox3 at 13.0. For sure more decompression is needed, so yes, maybe increasing it to 13.3 isn’t a bad idea, but tbh I don’t care so much at this point, I don’t fly above 12.7 in sim anymore, because of ARH spam and iron dome meta. I have no problem being at bottom tier, as long as I don’t have to face fox-3’s whilst having fox-1 and some barely decent fox-2’s.
The 13.0 Fox-3 carriers are bricks and fine at that BR. As soon as someone gets close, they are dead.
Plus, they are boring to play so there aren´t many of them anyway.
Is the F2A too strong for 13.0? Yes!
Would it be mediocre at 13.3? Absolutely!
But it will not go to 13.3 because its a premium and gaijin is well known for under BR-ed premiums. (Hello Su-11, you OP piece of sh…)
Its not hard p2w, but you definitely buy an advantage. And lets be honest: No one would buy it at 13.3.
Moral:
If the Su-27 would be a premium, it would have never been higher than 13.0.
He did say specifically in sim. It could be anywhere from 12.3 to 13.3, 12.7 to 13.7, 13.0 to 14.0
yea he is correct
in a perfect world the hordes of premium flankers would sit at 13.7, perfection doesn’t exist. LOL
Just stupid imo that the F-4F ICE is 13.0 and the F3 Late is 13.3.
They should either both be 13.0 or 13.3