These planes are outrageously overpowered at 13.0 and dominate a large majority of the matches you find them in. It would not be unreasonable to move them to 13.3, so the 12.0 - 13.0 bracket can be playable.
yea but if you move them at 13.3 with only fox 1&2 i don’t think they stand a lot of change against 14.3
only if the C10 and 13.3 Su30’s move up