F22 Even Possible in War Thunder?

You’re preachin to the choir, brother.
If you had read my citation you could quite clearly see the whole ‘simulation cannot replace actual measurement’ bit, but it’s obvious that reading isn’t your strong suit.

Every argument you’ve had thus far is as far from constructive as can be, and you’re even bringing in a second whataboutism.
I’d advise you leave before you really start to embarrass yourself.

Provided by what band?

I’m sure if a spherical cow were to engage it via radar it would be -50dbsm.

Me bringing sources(including lockheed engineer) = whataboutism. Great stuff.

But it seems like we agree that the simulation is off then. I’m not sh*tting on the work these 3 PhD recipients did nor on the quality of the simulation program, simply that they lack the necessary classified data to reach an accurate result and that their current result contradicts too much with other information we have to be acceptable. As someone who has a PhD(though not in engineering), I know how hard it is to get one and respect the authors of the work you posted.

With that said, you won’t have me believe that both the F-22 and F-35 have a bigger radar return than the F-117. The only thing certain in all this is what Denys Overholser said and his statement contradict with the result of the simulation you posted if we go from the basis that both F-22 and F-35 have a smaller radar return. Make of that what you will.

Is the Lockheed engineer in the room with us?

Your 2 tabloids aren’t “sources” brother, especially not primary sources like you’ve claimed.
Hell, they don’t even have direct citation to their claims either.

God damn brother, took you long enough.

I don’t think anybody can get you to believe anything with how oblivious you are to basic constructs. Come back to us when you’ve got your engineering certs.

Gaijin will introduce weakened versions of the J20 and F22, while technology enthusiasts will submit millions of bug reports, which will be rejected due to the lack of authoritative sources. The Su-57 will receive specifications that are as close to reality as possible because the Gaijin have or will have access to data from the Russian military-industrial complex, or at least their own vision of what specifications the aircraft should have, and they will not need bug reports (the situation with the J10C and Su30SM2).

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You must be a real nice, classy person with that kind of attitude.

Take a chill pill, my man. Clearly you have a problem with any kind of debate/information sharing that doesn’t go exactly the way you want it to.

Yeah, I’ve only told you to screw off 3 times and you haven’t gotten the memo.

This… Isn’t debate brother. You’re simply here because you saw a number that irritated you.

Its is indeed good considering the fact RAM was not taken into account and the model was not accurate as the author themselves claimed





Also correct me if i am wrong bust Frontal RCS of F-22 also peeked at -20 dBsm according to the graph present at page 49

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I remember someone counted the Cigarettes and its not even 500

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Currently the only new thing that 5th. gen aircraft bring to the table in Warthunder is their low RCS. And if we take into account how short the engagment distances are in Warthunder, i highly doubt that the whole stealth aspect of the new aircraft will play a too significant role.

Overall Warthunder is very arcade, to the point where all the bells and whistles of modern 5th. gen stealth fighters except for their stealth are simply not relevant. (Sensor fusion, networking, MUM-T, super cruise etc.)

Invisible? No. Harder to detect? Yes.
Not to mention that stealth is way more effective at long range, which the F-117A will struggle to see in WT as the matches are a constant battle and every inch that has a target the F-117A wants to strike is most definitely in range of an enemy’s radar, even w/ reduced RCS.

F-22, J-20, F-35, J-35…they are all going to in the Game with entirely made up Stats/Values.

But the Community wants them knowing its not possible to have them accurately in the Game so don’t get to complain later on they aren’t accurate. Or maybe Gaijin knows someone is going to leak Stuff…

Pray tell, what purpose would peak returns serve in-game?

Sorry, I did not get what you are trying to say here

In what way is the peak return significant?

Can you tell me in what way it would be useful to in-game application, or even a technical application IRL?

I don’t know

Meant past not untill, sorry, was kinda distracted yesterday.