That’s probably the br bracket I played the most, and F1c clubs only against premium and inexperienced pilots not knowing how to use their own plane, but most of the times I saw that plane with k/d barely around 1:1
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IRL combat encounters had real trained pilots flying the aircraft. you can’t compare that to normal people playing a videogame. If you think a vehicle is performing incorrectly in a specific regard you have to provide sources to back up your claim. Pilot testimonies are not considered valid sources as far as i know.
A lot of the time when i see players complain about a vehicles performance it’s usually down to them not knowing all the mechanics or tricks of the vehicle/game mode they are playing in (there are of course a few exceptions). From what i can see at first glance; it looks like you bought a top tier vehicle without having played through the lower tiers first. I personally don’t recommend doing that as you miss out on learning a lot of the fundamentals of gameplay by skipping the lower tiers, things like energy management, what is and isn’t a good position, changing key binds to more easily have access to controls that might seem unimportant at first but you learn are useful by playing through the tech tree and things like that.
If you at the start buy a top tier vehicle then you have to start learning the basics at the same time as the advanced things when everyone else have the basics in their muscle memory and are only thinking about the more advanced maneuvers/techniques/mechanics because they don’t have to think of the basics anymore.
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This topic wont be closed unless it breaks the rules.
If this answer come from you the discusión is over. You do with this game what you want and what you want it is an easy and fun research to France. And what about me and others research using another premium aircraft.
So what I understand with your answer is that F1C get 15 Air kills because the other side is not doing well the job.
The statistics tell a lot about that. Do you look on statistics?
So. The meaning of simulation for Gaijing is only about team work not avionic, not performance?
I’m not sure if i understand you.
But i want to be clear: Game Masters have no insight/influence over development and no contact with the developers. We are on the same level as any other player when it comes to the future of the game and decisions for how to balance it.
Here is a Community Managers official answer with a description on how balance is being handled: ( Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08) - #3556 )
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Are you aware that the mig-23 is better in term of pure performance? Faster, better suited for dogfight. F1c is basically a flying brick with 2 good IR’s, 'cause SARH are meh compared to the ones the mig has.
not really, and that’s because in such br range there’s plenty of premium aircrafts flown mostly by low level players.
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Can we post proof about how F1C kill 15 plus time?
Because honestly after this intervention seem we should silence and keep being shot down by F1C ones after other and don’t open any thread again talking about
Huh? It’s SIM mode, they died 7 times as well.
A once encounter with a good player doesn’t automatically mean that the vehicle is good for every player.
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So in the screen shot you appear to basing you argument on that user had 15kills and 7 deaths so thats roughly about 2 kills per death and as stated the magic 2s are very good if you know how to use them.
This whole argument the Mig23ML is bad because you’re arent doing well is wild TBH as stated before if played right you can be a menace to the emeny team including the Mirage F1C as your kit is way better.
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Should I mention this OP make me and others to research in an unfair way. Because allowing F1C killing 15 plus time in favor of France research tree but not in favor of other is like telling me and the rest of the pilots hold punch as you can. My money spent on my premium vehicle in the opposite team is worthless then.
All those arguments about who win is the player that make tactics better are pointless while your statistics tell how OP is the F1C.
Lossing is not unfair it happens
Getting a prem mig23 doesn’t mean you will never loss a game
The upgraded Matra R550 Magic 2 with IRCCM was in service around 1986 such is the timeline for 4-gen fighters, like Mig-29A with R-73 and F-16C with Aim-9M both in BR 13 plus.
SRAAM is from the mid 70s. at a lower BR than Mig-23s and Mig-21s that are either older or from around those years.
The Thrust to Weight ratio for this fighter in real life it is awful and this F1C from Gaijin in Circle Fight look like a 4-gen fighter.
T/W is not the only metric for fighters. it affects acceleration, yes. thats why the F1C doesnt accelerate as fast as other planes.
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i can assure you, a Mig-23ML would do even better in a sim match if the pilot knows even a little what they’re doing.
the F1C has two good missiles. the rest are mid as hell. and the good missiles are short range. the airframe is pretty bad and can feel sluggish at times. the radar is meh, the RWR is meh.
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That’s my last try then I give up. As we say in my city “There is none so deaf as he who will not hear.” I didn’t find a better way to translate it xD.
I give you another practical example. Few weeks ago I took the Tornado F3 Late for a ride, br was max 13.3 so my enemies were… Premium Su-30’s. Without taking into account the times I crashed into the ground (lag, or my own errors during landings), I scored 14 kills while being shot just 5. According to the way you think the F3 is better than the Su-30, but it’s not, it’s probably the worst 13.3 in the game right now. Guess how I managed to get so many kills? I’m not an ace, nor a pro or the best, it’s just the enemies had no idea on how to use their superior aircraft.
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a low skilled enemy in a superior aircraft can be easily beaten by a higher skilled pilot in an inferior aircraft.
god bless the Mig-29 for allowing me to kill F-18s.
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Limited to only 2
Weakest radar of the BR
Weakest sarh of the BR
It’s not
Entry of service is irrelevant and it’s not. Those airframes are substantially more powerful.
TLDR, Mirage F1 is fine at 11.7 in ASB due to the weak radar, RWR (giving very be poor situational awareness) and limited missile count. Sure, maybe should be 12.0, but then the Mig23s and a few of the phantoms should be 11.7 not 11.3. so it’s not the only one 0.3 lower than it perhaps should be, though I farm the Mirage F1s all day long in the Tonka F3
Mirage F1 is actually one of the only aircraft at or around that BR which I think is actually correctly balanced. A good KD in ASB just means the player is smart not that the aircraft is OP, I achieve good KD in aircraft that are actually over BRed, quite a bit, doesn’t mean they are OP, just that I was smart in how I played it
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Btw, this thing faces f14s, f16s, and f18s on a 12.3 day (you will not find a match if you try to join blue).
Play the F1 and tell me that it’s OP, when timmy in his Netz forces the merge and monkey pulls until he’s on your 6.
Would be fine if you could rate with him, but even in damping, and a monkey flying it, the f16’s STR will keep him on your 6.
you’re not flying it right trust me, I am. This thing cannot rate OR slow speed manoeuvre (it falls like a brick out of the sky below 700kph) compared to a 4th gen airframe.
If someone is exceptionally slow (not too uncommon at that br on blue) then yes, of course you can win. But if anyone has the slightest concept of energy, it’s over.
Yes but have you considered that killing people with crappy missiles is very funny?
In ARB if someone starts to chase you down it’s basically your game, over. You literally can’t shake people off because they will always slow down faster and accelerate faster giving them full control of the engagement
Easier to do in ARB, but here we’re talking about sim and whole gameplay is totally different.