In what ways does it behave like a ufo? Or in what ways is is overperforming? You need to be more specific than “nerf F-16 because overperforming fm”.
Well for starters it can pull over 50 degrees of aoa before departing flight even though there isn’t a single f16 to exceed 25.5 degrees of aoa. It outperforms its own em diagrams, as does the f15a. Its the best fm in the game. Block 10 out dogfights the eurofighter and rafale, guns only which it has no business doing.
2nd part not saying to put it to 11.3 at least make it 12.3 or 12.0.
12.3 for the ones with radars btw.
It will only pull that if you override the instruction and make the plane loose control. Also no point in doing that because the F-16 doesn’t respond well to that stuff.
So do most planes.
This is just untrue. Not against the Eurofighter which will easily force the 1C and almost match it in 2C. The gripen for example is still better than the F-16 block10
It will easily pull that in full real and NOT depart flight. As in you remain in full control of the aircraft.
Not by nearly the margins that the f16a does. Only one that comes close to overperforming as much is the f5 another notoriously poorly made flight model and the f15a which is in a similar boat to the f16a.
Go play them in full real. The f16a can easily keep up and usually win against the eurofighter and rafale.
No it doesn’t. With the instructor it will reach about 25deg AoA maximum on minimum fuel, on full control you can get into the 35degs by also losing all your speed in the process. (You can do up to 90 by stalling/flat spin the plane in the process)
F-16 FM doesn’t respond well with higher inputs than what the instructor allows to begin with, no point in doing so unless you cant control your sustained turn with mouse aim.
The Eurofighter has away too much thrust and noose authority for the F-16 to be able to force the 2C, and even then it only wins by a small margin in sustained turn rate. The rafale might be easier because it performs worse than the Eurofighter, but in practise it doesn’t matter because any F-16 would be forced into the 1C anyway with magic 2 or micas. Even the mirage 2k could do it.
The block10 isn’t the monster you think it is right now. It’s sustained turn rate is equal to the block 50 and the F-15A. Only slightly better in energy retention due to the weight.
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They are…
Unless they aren’t for Arcade, they are 12.7
I’ve literally tested the aoa thing in wtrti myself. It can 100% do more than you think it can. It responds fine to high aoa inputs as I’ve used them quite extensively. The thing can pull more AoA than a mig29 and can keep up with the flanker in full real. In fact it can keep up with the eurofighter in the 1 circle in full real. The ef2000 can out aoa the f16a but its so unstable in those high aoa maneuvers that it will either rip its wings off or pull too much aoa and go into an unrecoverable stall because janky fm. The ef can go for the energy trap but then it has to come in to the fight with more energy. The Ef has amazing engines but like most planes bleeds too much speed at low speed so if you get slow you stay slow.
I would also add the F-15A to this list.
You need to test again because you must be confusing the mig29 with the F-16 FM. The mig29 can indeed pull into the 50deg AoA. The F-16 will only do about 35deg unless you induce a flat spin.
Also if you are fighting people pulling that much AoA in the F-16 they must be incredibly bad because the F-16 will have a very bad turn rate and energy retention with those maneuvers.
Bro now I think you are just trolling with me. The EF2000 is one of the most controllable jets on high AoA only after the flankers
Fox 3s are just radar missiles with an internal radar.
Defeat them like you do SARHs.
IR only F-16s are fine at 12.7.
What a shortsighted take. Have you ever considered that without fox3’s you will always be defensive and be an easy target to fox2’s if you keep on the notch? The only missiles that can somewhat compete are the R-27ER since at mid ranges you can launch them, unlock and notch chaff, then go relock again before impact.
@HighRiskNoReward
Without airframe advantage over the enemy.*
You don’t need Fox-3s to be offensive, you need positioning and airframe advantage in at least one aspect: Speed, maneuverability, and/or fuel consumption.
AIM-7Fs and R-27ERs are fine missiles of course, but they’re still just radar missiles.
IRCCM doesn’t care about your airframe
They are not comparable to each other begin with. The sparrows have no chance against fox3 carriers. The R-27ER might if they underestimate you.
@HighRiskNoReward
IRCCM isn’t a Fox-3.
Also if you’re notching more than 30 seconds in a match, you should play the BRs you understand instead.
It’s either that or you RP as a lawnmower, which feels cheesy. You also aren’t able to notch well, while guiding a SARH missile.
The 12.7 F-16s and Mig-29s are fine, we just need a ton of decompression. Uptiers in them are brutal, since you can rarely be on the offensive.
You can’t guide at all, since you need to notch at over 90º LOS from the incoming missile.
But i’d much rather be in a mig-29 in an uptier than the F-16.
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You’re not supposed to launch first, you’re supposed to launch in proper parameters.
I guarantee you that if you or HighRisk launches first against me, you will lose the engagement.
12.7 F-16s and Mig-29s are already decompressed.
F-15C/JM and Su-27SM are the only 13.7 holdouts.
And while @HighRiskNoReward is admitting his posts are wrong by having posts that dehumanize others instead of staying on topic; little does he know that I ran an exclusive AIM-9L loadout with all of my F-16As, not just the American standard one.
Granted, more people have learned and forgot, so now it’s more chaos than it use to be.
Ohh noo… That explains why your stats are soo good with the F-16A right? 0.5kdr? Oh nevermind.
Overall you have too little experience to talk on the topic to begin with, and unimpressive stats across the board. Then you come here saying we don’t know how to play.
That’s blatantly incorrect. You can very easily get a whole 1.0BR out of just decompressing 12.7+.
Are you talking about just 12.7, or all that 12.7 can face?
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