F16 to germany?

Ok
However like I said, it is my opinion that France would fit Switzerland better.

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and you were not able to name any real reason, when more switz vehicles are german or german inspired

Neither is france in need of the vehicles, france has just as many possible vehicles as germany

Switzerland uses mostly german as well so there is that

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Bloody Germans, selling their weapons to everyone :P

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Ok? My reason was that I think it would be better for France considering they are a minor nation. Unless you want Switzerland as a Israel tree that needs France and/or Germany (since they got equipment from both), it would be better in France because there isn’t as much incentive to play France as Germany and this would be a reason.
Germany already has a subtree, minor as it is - Argentina. France does not.

Ok by this statement why did Russia needed the SMT ?

Smin said an advanced missile for the 9-12 was denied on the ground of it didn’t need it as it was already preforming pretty well.

And what do you know weeks later the SMT arrived so yea

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again, france has as many vehicles as us/rus/germany/uk, a sub tree doesnt change popularity necesarily, its supposed to help fill holes, which france doesnt have either, belgium fits better to france

Please do not make up statements. We said that the R-73 was not planned for any of the existing MiG-29 variants (Pre SMT and G) as they were never planned to receive R-73. It was not about their performance long term. It was always planned that more advanced modifications would come for the USSR and Germany and get these missiles.

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france has half of the vehicles that the ussr or us have nowhere even close to the same, they probably have less than italy

Neither nation needs Switzerland besides they are one of the better nation that could receive there own tech-tree.

That’s how I remember it so …

in war thunder, i am speaking of possible potential and real amount of vehicle choices, gajin not adding them is on gajin, trough all times france was a major weapons developer, even if not necesarily popular in export

Lol.

Your face when Swiss ground TT ends at 10.7 or 11.0 (because everything afterwards was a mock-up).

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that plan is gone, switzerland properbly gonna get split between france and germany either way

Lets see…

  • significantly better CAS
  • superior helicopters
  • superior SPAA

(Talking in terms of higher BRs). It’s no joke that where Germany thrives, France performs badly, but where France thrives, Germany isn’t up to par (Ground - > Air).

Also is everyone just forgetting France can get their former colonial possessions as sub-tree(s)?
Algeria is a straight up banger combining both German & Russian vehicles (Boxer CRV Mk.1, BMP-2M, BMP-T, T-90SA), Morocco literally gives them the Abroomz lmao, and y’all want arguably the rarest Leopard 2A4 variant (that has all the rights to be in Germany’s TT, not in France’s) instead?

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they somehow gonna argue thats part of the uk south africa tree

Out of curiosity but what is this list that you are referring to?

f4f ice and typhoon, those are the ones we named, in this case he is refering to the f4f ice

@FurinaBestArchon small correction the 21Bis was added a whole year after the Russian TT got it

yeah, imo there shold be just capability gaps in trees. Therefore we have a mm matching that with other nations, that have this capability. Also having non-symetrical battles is interesting.