F16 to germany?

which like the mig 29 got added a whole update later, its competitive until amraams get added yes, and then it goes down the drain, while everyone gets options from other nations or has multiple options themself.

Again we are all concerned about the future state, we do not care about the right now

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Well, basically what Shini said. Right now doesn’t matter to us, we’re in the phase of “We’re so back” for now, but 6 - 12 months into the future, and we will be back to “It’s so over” phase.

We are not currently at the future and as I have already clarified, I cannot provide details ahead of time on what plans we have to resolve any gaps that may arise in the future. We don’t release vehicle plans ahead of when they are ready to be shown within dev blogs and announced to the community as a whole.`

I understand this, but as explained multiple times now, we cannot provide answers on plans far ahead of where we currently are.

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:D
but they keep posting in these threads :D

It’s very clear why people are mad. Mig29G is more or less a c&p of the standard east german mig29 with only new missles. Then last update the very unoriginell tornado premium, which is a c&p of the event marineflieger.

You always say that gaijin looks for fixing gaps but Germany (and france) still has no alpha jet. While US and USSR got so many cas planes meanwhile. I know they have both more but the only time germany gets cas planes are when they are lazy copy and past vehicles

not like the rules has been broken multiple times, already alone last year with the Grippe for both sweden and Uk and the leopard 2a7v addition.

And oh yeah gajin did say sweden would receive grippen c in the coming patches as well

This was after a long period of a gap between technological upgrades for those cases. We have only just received the MiG-29G and are talking about gaps that do not currently exist and instances that are ahead of where we are right now. So these do not compare.

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We have already been clear the Eurofighter should not be expected soon. This has been said for some time now.

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so exactly what we are fearing to be the case between f4ff ice and typhoon

The Mig29G is already 2 upates ago. I don’t know what “just” for you means but for me means last update

Perhaps that’s your interpretation. Recent patches would be the last 2. Kings of Battle came just a month before Aerial Supremacy. The MiG-29G remains on par with many of the top vehicles in game currently.

We do not even have the first aircraft on this list yet, so we have not even got to that period yet. Let alone a gap after it. So again, this is far too soon to be discussing currently.

And then the devs managed to make the 2A7V underperform so hard, its armour became worse than the Leopard 2A5s, and actually below the Leopard 2 KVT’s levels hahahah.

Meme’ing, but lmaooo.

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I wish that germany would get a mini jet subtree with many planes all at once. A new top tier fighter would be cool but there are so many gaps for germany in the (more modern jet age). Finding useful cas planes for grb is so stupid. Needing to drag for example the IL-28 to grb is stupid.

But I guess germany can’t have good cas. The G91, which was always worse than the A4, was nerfed into oblivion meanwhile the A4 can still reign terror in grb (and got with the nord nerf patch even a buff iirc)

Mig-21, Mig-23BN were also nerfed, now it drops bombs/launches rockets in doubles instead of singles, cutting the CAS potential in half.

Yeah. I used to take 4 rockets and 2 bombs, but now the mig23bn isn’t worth to take out in grb especially because the lack of flares.

But many soviet aircraft were nerfed and not just the mig23bn. It’s still bad for germany because there is one viable cas plane less but it wasn’t like the g91 nord nerf with crazy assumptions on gaijins side (like only 50% volumen of the warhead is explosive and giant smoke clouds when launching the nord)

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MiG-29A/G and MiG-29SD/SE are the Product 9.12A and Product 9.12SD/9.13SE MiG-29s respectively.
The A and G were basically the same but the G had cockpit displays and other equipment modified for NATO. The SE/SD, on the other hand, were made for export, and added the N019M radar with compatibility for two R-77, one on each wing. The SD was an upgraded MiG-29 (9.12S), and the SE was the MiG-29 (9.13SE). Both had N019ME radar, and were to equipped with R-27ER1 and ET1, R-77AE (less range) and the standard export weapons loadout.
Basically its a MiG-29S (the 9.13S, not the 9.13A in the Soviet tree) but exported. I don’t know how many of either were made, but I’m reasonably certain it was a project before the reunification of Germany and the collapse of the USSR, and also that East Germany had an interest in the 9.13 upgrade.

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Austria yes, I agree with that.
In my opinion, though, Switzerland is in a weird limbo state between France and Germany (to an outsider). I personally would rather seem them in France, since they used the Mirage III pretty extensively and modified them for the aircraft caverns. But they also used the Leopard 2 (but so did like basically everyone, so that seems irrelevant) so the argument for Germany is there.
To me, the Swiss would fit better in game in France than Germany.

As for former French colonies, like French Indochina, I don’t know. Off the top of my head, I don’t know how close they are today, but French Indochina (Vietnam) fought an independence war against France so they’re out. So the only ones that would add anything of substance are Morocco and Tunisia.

Honestly, in my opinion, naval should stop at prototype/designed ships at the end of WW2 and not really advance into the missile era without both decompression and a redesign of the gamemode.

  • using Mirage III - > very important (even though it was also used by “basically everyone”).
  • using Leopard 2A4 (with C-technology armour[!!] that was only available to Germany & Switzerland in real life, as such making it a very rare variant) - > irrelevant

The argument is very much there, lets stop being hypocritical that France’s claim is so much better when it isn’t.

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