as i know, the countermesure pods modeled in the “secondary weapons” part are optional, not an integrated part of the aircraft, which means it only has 240 CM with them, compared to the israelian F-15I which actually has 120 integrated CM and can carry the extra 240 CM pods.
btw don’t cry, F-15s have plenty of countermesures and u should say thx u have them, some aircrafts aren’t that lucky to have an exagerated amount of normal non-BOL countermesures (don’t make me talk about russian planes).
LMFAO riiiiiiiiiight keep believing that hammy. There is a reason we are number 1, and it ain’t because of your misguided belief of what you think you know. Our Tech is at the front. You only know what our specs are, because we let you know! We constantly show you, but you all still hide behind your goofy arsed falsities. We don’t force anyone to buy, they buy because it is battle proven in real world scenarios on multiple occasions. Looking good on paper isn’t the same as real world applications.
I get that, but when I am constantly dodging missiles that ignore chaff and flares kinda makes it tedious to play bruv. I have mine set to 40 Flares and 200 Chaff but in one battle I have had to dodge 6 missiles and dumped all my chaff just trying to shake em as well as dropping to the earth to use terrain to dodge.
If u spend 200 chaff to dodge 6 missiles i believe u have rather a skill issue, a panicking problem or just don’t know how to dodge fox-3s.
Bro, if i can survive with 71 chaff in the Su-30SM2, u can survive with 240 chaff at a 12.7/13.7/14.0.
Ah yes the no miss R-771 slinger lol
call it what you want I have played all top tier American except the F/A-18C late and F/A-18E and the one I have been able to kill more people with is the F-16C. the Strike Eagle trim characteristics are sluggish as all get out. I am also playing on a laptop not some redonkulous gaming rig bruv. I mainly stick to bombing missions and I do fairly well, a lot of it is teammates not helping or coordinating etc etc. I know I ain’t the best never said I was but I know how chaff and and Dodge fox 3’s just doesn’t help when your being dogged from 8 different directions while trying to stay outta the furball. I have watched planes do no evasive maneuvers and the missile says feck you and does what it wants. Remember ping, packet loss, fps RAM, and Graphics card and Processor are all key factors in your battle outcome as well as teammate cohesion.
bro, i have played basically all Flankers except the Fullback, played F-16D and F-15I, played Rafale M and idk if i still have another toptier jet which i have played, and saying “knowing how to chaff and dodge fox-3s doesn’t help when u’re being dogged from 8 different directions while trying to stay outta the furball” sounds like a problem.
if u know how to dodge fox-3s and chaff, then no matter the direction u will probably dodge them all, u just need to know which one dodge first via RWR or PoV.
trust me, playing the “most broken” plane Su-30SM2 gets the attention of MANY players in a single match, which means i usually face like 10 missiles as minimum in a wide area of +25º, which means i need to notch perfectly if i wanna stay flying (lol who wouldn’t want to stay flying? repair costs are a hell) so if i can notch that amount of missiles in a plane with less than 100CM and a bad FM, u must be able of notching 20 in a plane with 240CM and a good FM.
Except that the drop 2 at a time, regardless of whether you have both CM blocks installed.
So it’s 120 standard CMs or even worse, 60 if you need to take the TGP.
None of this is accurate to IRL, especially when all US F-15s should have BOL pods.
Now compare that to 96 large caliber CMs on the Su’s
96 countermesures vs. 120 countermesures
also nobody takes TGP in a F-15A, it isn’t a F-15E.
even better, u need to press ur keybind less times, less physical effort lmao.
can u prove it pls?
btw, BOL is broken rn, it’s basically the most useless thing u can carry in a plane, almost dead-weight, it has like 8 times worse performance than a normal countermesure.
again, i have played a F-15I which is pretty much the same as the F-15E (but with 120CM more) and it’s not that bad if u need to defend against Fox-3s.
btw i believe it doesn’t have 240CM as default for balancing purposes. if it had 240CM as default and u could carry 240CM more with extra CM pods, it would be a bit unfair to have a plane with 480 normal CM (non-BOL) while u have Gripen with the same 4 BOL CM pods as always with horrible performance.
Large vs standard, which means you can afford to take less flares because large are more reliable for IR threats.
Did you read the title for the post? Or are you just stupid and arguing in bad faith?
Got it. Also arguing in bad faith while stupid. Defeating ARHs with CMs means constantly deploying to force the missile into IOG until it drops you. Deploying 2 at a time doesn’t matter when it sees them both at the same time. All it does is waste CMs.
We already have, try to keep up sweety.
No, chaff is effective regardless of size. All that matters is deployment time/interval.
still enough to dodge an IR missile.
u aren’t going to spend 24 chaff for 1 missile (tho if u do, u still have plenty of countermesures).
why are u going to bring TGP to ARB? and if u play GRB u aren’t going to spend that much CM to dodge a SAM.
wrong, if u’re constantly deploying chaff, all u’re doing is give the ARH missile a beautiful path to go after u.
all u need to do is notch, 10/20º pitch up/down and drop around 4 large caliber chaff or 8 normal chaff, after that u’re pretty much safe. btw speed is also key in this situations.
can u send it or tell me who proved it? btw i believe being disrecpectul as u’re being rn is unnecessary. get some manners.
cof cof
This is not an ARB exclusive discussion, it is a machinery of war discussion. Correcting an aircraft affects every game mode.
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/1QrBJ1GvU9KD
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/rWl5qulHBIVP
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/B9Uo8bUeoD5X
If you think that’s too much, you’re too soft to have this discussion.
That’s only relevant to IR countermeasures, genius.
so u wanna correct things? then give Su-30SM2 it’s respective CM pods and MAW via Irbis-E with 6secs delay.
trust me, i know what i’m talking about.
thx! :D
it isn’t, genius.
all of them were accepted, weird from Gaijin but if they do something right for the first time then i don’t complain about them. expect the Eagles to get BOL anytime, maybe in 5 years knowing how their lazy staff works, but happy to know they’re going the right way.
chaff bol is basically the same as regular chaff for countering radar missiles, it doesn’t really make a difference.
Just make your bol cms chaff and your normal cms flares.
u sure there’s literally not a single difference between BOL chaff and normal chaff? i have heard enough about BOL pods being trash no matter what u carry on them, so i honestly believe there’s still a difference between each one.
there’s definitely a slight difference, but not enough to make a real difference in gameplay.
chaff is chaff, its force missiles to go into iog anyways.
While bol flares are kinda trash because burn time is ass compared to normal flares
ok thx.
Your team must be the creme of the crop every time you play! because I am constantly having to go from offense to defense for teammates that are as slow as a box of rocks in molasses going uphill in an Antarctic Blizzard. I am constantly using terrain and I never fly into the furball. I always stay on the outskirts, and constantly get my azz handed to me by MICA-EM’s and R-77-1’s or my own damn missile from Eurofighters. Constantly the radar is not showing a target dead in front pounding my lock on key bind and it giving the middle finger to me. My wont lock on target or constantly lock another target that I am not tracking. I have gotten a lot better but still getting rolled trying to do tactics while team feck off to where ever lol
