So basically the F-14 is pretty much rubbish in every way???
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Now F-15 vs F-16…
Compared to the past, the AIM-54A has become less accurate, and the Sidewinder is out of the question. If you’re going to use Sparrows, the F-15A or even the F/A-18C would be better choices.
Plus, the RWR performance is poor. It might be better than something like the MiG-29 or Yak-141.
Of course, the high maneuverability stemming from its variable wing mechanism is worthy of praise, but the opportunities to utilize it are few and far between. Generally, you get shot down before you even get close enough to take advantage of it.
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Do you think the F-14B will have improvement and much better overall performance then the F-15 or F-18A?
We gotta bump 13.3-13.7 up. These constant uptiers are so annoying when you’re stuck with sparrows. 12.7-13.0 is practically the same.
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Also is anyone else having trouble maintaining radar lock for the sparrows? It loses lock so much many of my kills come from aam3 forcing me to dogfight more.
Before answering the question, one thing: I think comparing it to the F/A-18C (Early) is more appropriate than comparing it to the F-14B or F-15A.
Compared to the F-15A and the 18 (let’s consider the C (Early) for now), the 14B excels in long-range survivability and attack capability. Its RWR performance is also at a comparable level. Furthermore, since it is equipped with a BOL launcher, it has more countermeasures available. (Though its effectiveness is reduced compared to standard countermeasures, it’s still additional equipment).
The Sidewinder’s performance is superior on the 15A.
Also, engine thrust has improved since the 14A, so the kinetic energy directly affecting combat efficiency is also excellent.
Because of that, even if they were to dogfight, I think it’s hard to say definitively which would win.
However, I’ve never used the 14B myself, so please keep in mind this is purely theoretical.
I agree. Lowering the BR of the 15A doesn’t solve the root of the problem. What really needs changing are the 13.3 Flankers, the 13.0 Kfir C.10s, and the J-8Fs. The MiG-29N…? Hmm…
For me its really unfair when I sling 6 fox3 on poor f18 premiums and f15A/J. Its not the best 13.3 plane but man its missiles are good.
If you want to fly a plane with SARH then make sure its at a br where you can’t face fox3 so 12.0 below. 12.0-12.7 for SARH planes is fox 3 uptier hell. The F4s at 11.0-11.3 are at a good place where skill matters more than spamming fox 3s.
I don’t consider the MiG-29N that threatening. Sure, it can carry 6 R-77s, but that variant was created by stripping the MiG-29SMT of its radar performance, RWR capabilities, and countermeasure capacity.
At ranges over 10km, the PL-12 on the J-8F or the Derby on the Kfir and F-16D are far more threatening than the MiG-29N, which is too slow to evade after being locked onto.
Plus, there are the fully superior Su-30MK2 and MKK variants.
Therefore, I think a rating of 13.3 is reasonable for the MiG-29N.
True, I’m just against the whole idea of SARH vs Fox 3, its unfair.
True the RWR is the worst on the f14a.
But the sparrows/ radar actually works ok compared with f15.
Plus it gets 4 fox 3 missiles that get a kill or 2 most games.
Overall its good jet.
I believe the F-15 would do only worse in the dogfight, mainly because for B/WVR you have 2 AIM-7M more
I understand that. Basically, SARH is at a disadvantage.
But I think some hopeless ARH carriers like the Sea Harrier FA.2 should be allowed.
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Does that mean even now that the 15A has been downgraded to BR 12.7, the 14A is still a better fighter than the 15A?
He’s not wrong though, the weakest of the Fox-3 carriers have little reason to be any higher than the strongest Fox 1 or 2 carriers. They are universally much weaker aircraft just with strong (ish) BVR weapons.
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What even the major difference between the F-14 A and B?
f14b gets a better rwr, bol pods the aim9l and different engines
Aim-7M, Aim-54Cs and the A2G loadout too