Whatever you say bud. I’m not budging from this discussion and let F-14 get its way. either give me BOL for all 13.0 F-16 stuck in their shit situation with minimal flare count against 16 (at least) phoenixes or just don’t say anything at all. I don’t like the lack of Option the early F-16 has and it extend to every F-16, not just the MLU and AJ that I own but to Netz, 15 OCU, italian ADF and American ADF.
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This seems like a you problem rather than an F-14 problem.
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it’s an F-14 problem. by being a carrier of a missile that has only one reliable counter it is automatically an F-14 induced problem. Either give more CM to more planes or introduce ECM pod, then F-14 can stay in their respective BR.
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Wait until you find out that the new missiles maneuver worse than AIM-54s, which themselves maneuver far worse than AIM-7Fs.
@七-十三
I only fire IR missiles on afterburning targets within their parameters unless I’m within 800 meters.
Way to insult people.
EJ Kai runs the same anti-fighter kit as F-14B just with a better radar and worse airframe that accelerates slightly faster than F-14A.
I haven’t used chaff against F-14s until I tested chaff 2 weeks ago, and since I haven’t used chaff.
I just dodge. The practice was largely for AIM-120s and other AMRAA missiles that will actually require chaffing.
Here’s my perspective on how to solve everyone’s problems because you guys are getting absolutely nowhere (this is my opinion don’t kill me)
Plan A: Gaijin doesn’t decompress to 14.0:
Give the F-14A AIM-9Ls and put it at 13.0, it is now just and F-16ADF where you trade a little dogfight capability for 2 extra missiles, it also makes it so the max F-14s on the enemy team in a 12.0 match is 4.
Give the F-14B AIM-9Ms and move it to 13.3 with all the other bad ARH carriers, sure it’s completely outclassed by AIM-120s and will face mostly up tiers by that’s why we need 14.0
Plan B: Gaijin decompresses to 14.0
The 14.0 decompression is only needed for 12.3-13.7 planes atm. The F-14A gets AIM-9Ls and goes to 13.0 with the ADF, this is a pretty big buff because it can now see only 4 good ARH carriers rather than any amount, it is need until further decompression though.
The F-14B gets AIM-9Ms and goes to 13.3, this is majorly different from the other option because one thing, the other bad ARH carriers go to 13.7. Now the F-15A/J/Baz is also at 13.3 and is a Tomcat without the option of bad ARHs.
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bro why is the f-14 going against f4s legit unfair
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No it’s not lmao, F-4S has HMD, the same number of SARH missiles, the same number of IR missiles, the same number of CMs, more missiles total (10 vs 8) and a digital RWR. More than 4 tomcats in a match it a little excessive but if you think the F-4S can’t compete it’s a skill issue.
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For you, asymmetry is only valid when you are on the strong side of the asymmetry.
If the f14A goes up to 12.7 and the f14B goes up to 13.0 (of course with upgrades to its fox 1 and fox 2 missiles). They will continue to be asymmetrical, but facing only 4 gen… He will only share the gameplay with J8F and AV 8B+… He just won’t have the strong side of the asymmetry anymore.
I think it’s fair for the Mirage 2000C-S4/S4 to go up from BR (12.7) along with the F14A, the same goes for the Yak 144… these planes wouldn’t be good against 3rd gen. The only 4th gen planes I would keep at 12.3 would be the JH7A and the Mirage 2000D-R1
What?
The F-14s will be fine if they get Fox 2 buffs and Phoenix buffs.
Soo… The problem isn’t the F-14 itself, its compression.
Interpret the stats as whatever you like, I’m just putting it out there.
Aim54 efficacy isn’t the issue its denying other airframes position, no other aircraft at these BRs can deal with the F-14 at high altitudes. You cant ignore the AIM 54 you have to defend and give up position.
A smart F-14 player will hunt you down and you will usually die.
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Mirage only has a great FM, it has 4 missiles 2 of which are ok and 2 magic 2s.
It’s not 12.7 material that would mean facing Fox 3 aircraft with 2 BVR missiles!
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With few exceptions, all afterburning aircraft 11.3 onward can easily be a threat to those at 8000 meters up.
A smart F-14 player will never hunt me down or they will die.
All F-14s that have hunted me down have perished.
“But they can rate.”
They can’t prevent the scissor.
That’s dependant on the aircraft though, at the BRs the F-14 normally faces Tornados…LOL good luck reversing and dealing with an F-14 slinging AIM 7F, F-4s…MiG 23, Mirage all evenly matched but the difference is the Tomcat has all the energy and position.
F-16/F-15, Su-27/MiG 29, Gripen etc sure
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Good luck on the F-14 somehow catching my mach 1.2 deck Tornado that’s over 10km away.
imagine saying skill issues kinda cringe kid.
Give me actual reasons other than “I can’t dodge a 17g missle” and I won’t say it’s a skill issue
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people who spam missiles all their shit at you let alone 16 v16 when dog fight 4 people by yoself when yo team is brain dead.
No, you started talking about how the F-4S (arguably the best 12.0) can’t compete against the F-14, give me reasons other than “muh team”
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