F-14A’s flight performance is equivalent to Mig-23MLD, that’s it.
AIM-54 is skill check missile.
F-16A is superior to F-14A in all ways. Weapons, radar, flight performance, engine…
F-14A is if F-4EJ Kai was 12.3 without AIM-9Ls… oh wait, the EJ Kai is 12.3 and has 9Ls.
And here’s how that goes:
GJ gives other planes FOX-3s at the F-14s BR
The FOX-3s are better then the phoenixes
People who can’t dodge a 17G missile complain even more
4628847282 threads asking for them to go up of get removed
This happens again
I’m not against adding low BR FOX-3s, definitely not, but people need to learn how to dodge phoenixes first (it’s insanely easy).
you are clearly biased towards keeping the f14 at a lower br rather than the overall balance of the game so continuing this debate is pointless so this will be my last response to you
-mig23MLD does not have equal flight performance to f14, i have half a thousand battles in both so i would know
-aim54 is not difficult to deal with i agree however its far too potent at its br and your dismissiveness is very one sided, calling it a “skill check” does not give it free pass to be at low br just because it can be evaded by a smart player
-f14a and f16a need to share the same br, that means a 0.7 br increase, they would then be side grades from each other with f16 having the edge in flight performance and f14a in weapon count, and that would still be a forgiving br as the difference in flight performance between them is smaller than the difference in battle effectiveness from the weapon count and aim54 option
@zZoKo
I’m biased toward balance of the game which is obvious to everyone that reads my posts.
The fact your post claims it’s pointless to converse with those for a balanced game is… not a good look for you.
Mig-23MLD accelerates faster, that’s about it.
Both have the same energy retention, and similar AOA capabilities.
And to claim that EJ Kai, F-14A, Tornado F3, etc are all equivalent to the F-16A is hilarious.
F-4J would be 0.3 BR below the F-16A in order for your “balance” idea to be anywhere close to non-biased.
i did not claim anything about ej kai and tornado, you did, please dont put words in my mouth, my opinion on f14 being a side grade to f16 still stands
@zZoKo
F-14A is vastly inferior to the F-16A.
F-14B isn’t even as good in a dog fight.
You haven’t unlocked the F-14A yet.
i grinded on multiple accounts, but feel free to pick at my stats, they are probably better than yours
You brought up your own stats, no one else did.
I merely fact-checked your claim is all.
IF F-14A is as OP as you claim it is, you should have a KDR well above 30% higher in your F-14A than your other recent BVR/furball management fighters.
Since you don’t seem interested in cross-analysis of aircraft.
You should probably not announce that lol
its on console, some cc creators also have it
Oh you didn’t link your account?
didnt bother besides i think its limited to certain time periods if i heard right
@zZoKo I am here to discuss my perspective just as much as you and everyone else.
And as far as I know, everyone discussing the F-14 is being 100% sincere in their experiences and opinions.
It’s always best to assume everyone is.
After all, I’m not going to insult you.
I think F-14A is balanced AMONG its fellow 12.3s based on the cross-analysis I’ve done.
Players not defeating the worst ARH in the game correctly doesn’t change that ARH’s capabilities.
FYI, don’t feed that guy.
he is our infamous goalpost-mover.
it usually goes into infinite parallel and wasting time.
he is right sometimes. but you know…
‘Even a broken clock is right twice a day’.
and he is full of his ego, so he thinks attacking himself is the same as attacking the WT community. :|
The purpose of playing games is having fun. Is playing against the current f14 fun?
Is it fun to have a significant part of your team killed before you have had a chance to shoot anything?
No
Is it fun to defend against the missiles?
No
Is it fun having no effective counterplay against BVR? (f14 can get kills and leave the match before you get in range)
No
Regardless of how skilled anyone is we have to agree that the current implementation simply makes games less fun to play for a lot of players. Moving it up in BR negates much of these fun-killers.
It’s better for one plane to struggle, than for an entire lobby to struggle.
F-14, 104A, MiG-19, and so on. They should go up even if it would make them difficult to play. Plenty of other planes are off-meta and difficult to use, better that than terrorizing an entire BR range
The problem is that the F-14A is good because of new premium players, not because the F-14A itself is OP.
F-14 players getting 4+ kills within the first minutes on clueless premium players means you’re down 4 teammates who might have been distractions, or possibly get some kills of their own. Farming idiots is still farming. Especially when only one team has 4 tomcats and the other team has just F4S bombers. In no other aircraft in the game do you have the same potential to farm, noobs or not. If the F-14 can doom one team to loss just by the virtue of not having it- it’s too strong for it’s BR
So the problem is asymmetric matchmaking, and new premium players.
F-14A is no more threatening to a match than F-4J, EJ Kai, Mig-21Bison, Mirage 2000C [superior to F-14A by far].
To a lesser extent: Tornado F3, JA-37C/D, Phantom FG.
For 12.7 you have Mig-29, Yak-141, F-20A.
The only reason you or others are complaining is the saturation of good players fragging players that haven’t learned how to defeat an AIM-7D since the last time someone used F-4C as a fighter was 2019, so everyone today is re-learning what should’ve been common knowledge for defeating AIM-54.
Still doesn’t change the fact that it’s the equivalent of pwning noobs.
M4A2 isn’t OP just cause I play it.
F-14A isn’t OP just cause people frag less skilled players.
If F-14A is too strong, so are F-4J, EJ Kai, Mig-21Bison, Mirage 2000C [superior to F-14A by far], Tornado F3, JA-37C/D, Phantom FG, Mig-29, Yak-141, F-20A, F-16A, etc.