F14 It's too strong for the current BR(12.3-12.7)

Which is the same BR as the F14B and 1 step up from the F14A, so again, like ive been saying the entire time, they will always see eachother,

Not to mention the Yak-41M can also carry 4 R27’s, I usually run 2 R27ER’s and 2 R27T’s, the R27ER is better than both the sparrow and phoenix, and the R27T is really hard for the F14 to flare in rear aspect, and for the MiG-29s, they either get 2 R27s and 4 r60m’s (great loadout btw) or 2 r27’s and 4 R73’s(MiG-29G), it has 2 less missiles but better missiles imo, the R60M is better than the AIM-9H on the F14A and the R73 is better than the AIM-9L.

Not to mention its not USA vs everyone

Its often USA v USA because of how many people play american top tier, and the F4S spam

F-16 is superior in flight performance and radar, while having the same weapons just 2 less of them.

Japan has a worse dogfighting F-14B with a better radar at 12.3: EJ Kai.
Or an F-14A with 9Ls and a a superior radar if you prefer.

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Man, you really always show up at Tomcat Topics. isn’t it? :|

F-4EJ Kai can’t use AIM-54 and can’t carry 6 AIM-7F. while F-14 can.

Those two have similar weaponry overall but don’t ignore the difference.

You often use hyperbole when explaining, and you often ignore the differences between F-14 and ‘counterpart’(which you mention) thanks to hyperbole speeches.

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AIM-54 is worse than the AIM-7F against fighters; unless you’re claiming cross analysis, DCS’s best players, War Thunder’s best players, and of course the US military all wrong…
And 6 vs 4 isn’t a real difference when both carry 8 total missiles.
I’ve used no hyperbole on this topic while addressing every difference.

MIG-29 will not dance on the F-14.

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It’s because you don’t use DCS tactics, If you used would know that F-4EJ Kai could defeat the f14 in all scenarios

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@Von_Valinor
Still waiting for an AIM-54 to frag me for the first time when flying a fighter.
Hasn’t happened to any of my fighters as of current; including Mirage 3C and J35XS.

Y’all keep claiming its OP yet it can’t frag an above average player.

it can’t though lol, only advantage ej kai has really is the radar but you can still defend against a sparrow pretty easily then just merge and neuter the gen3

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Of course, of course hahaha, is not the plane, is the pilot, I already understood DCS’s Maverick

This must be as true as “DCS tactics” hahaha

Unlike you, I don’t need to lie to prove my point, I don’t need to say that I apply simulator tactics in a simarcade game, to try to give someone pseudo-credibility.

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Me when I have to fight Tomcats in my Draken that doesnt even have an RWR.
LITERALLY waiting to die

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OP said MiG-29 and Yak-141 gets out ranged by Tomcats which is untrue. I never said anything about BRs lol.

Big man I was at 3.5-4km, of course the Phoenixes are gonna be fired at a longer range, if they’re fired close range then the massive smoke trails will be too obvious and it’ll be too easy to dodge. Also I climb high to bait Tomcats into firing long range and dragging those missiles at low altitude.

The only plane at its BR where I am quite confident against the Tomcats is my Mirage 2000C-S4.
That is IF I can get past the F-ing Phoenixes. I, for some reason, can have a REALLY hard time dodging the things.
For some reason it seems to me that the Phoenix almost pulls more than the 17G it says it does. I know it probably doesnt but it just seems that way. Tacview confirms it doesnt ever go over 17G but it tracks me REALLY well most of the time. Against a single phoenix I notch, chaff and pull sort of a half immelman. But if it keeps tracking me I have a hard time dodging the thing even in a mirage.

A couple games ago it fused about 2 planelengths away from me when I dodged and it still instakilled me.

Once I am past the Phoenixes its usually game over for the Tomcat because my 530D is faster than the Sparrows and I can usually get a launch off before they do.

I still think I have about a 50/50 chance against the tomcats

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I have a level 6 crew. I have to constantly let off the AB and airbrake just so I don’t pass out every 2 seconds.
War Thunder_2024.08.15-16.06

Also that was a real game not a custom game… Here’s what the replay looks like without the filters.

Btw I rushed in to prove that you don’t need to notch to defeat multiple Phoenixes.

Yes, it’s even worse flying soviet shitboxes with lightbulbs for RWR (mig23, only 4 quadrants LMFAO)

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Actually the Phoenix rarely pulls above 11Gs. It doesn’t have the wing area and AoA to pull 17Gs in most conditions. The reason why you’re not dodging it is probably because you’re just turning in one direction and not trying to jink the missile making it pull max Gs.

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I mainly try notching, and I try to use the vertical because I dont want to pull into or away from the phoenix because of the 3 megatonne nuclear warhead mounted to the front of them. They fuze at around 2 jet lengths away from me and one shot me that way.

Hyperbole IS used here but seriously they fuze from INSANE ranges.

Notching is good, its a safe way to dodge Pheonixes with very little effort but if you want to out-maneuver Phoenixes just copy what I do in the video I sent above. You don’t have to worry too much about the warhead, its large but as long as you maintain your high speed and jink then there should be no problem.

Ill try F-Poling like you showed, thanks.

Ah is that what the maneuver is called? Thanks lmao